Reality of Day Trading

Discussion in 'Trading' started by smallfil, Aug 20, 2020.

  1. Stockboy

    Stockboy

    couldnt sit through the entire video. sorry. but i did scan through it pretty thoroughly and she does mention a good point about "risk". at least she is bringing this to the attention of her audience, whether she knows she obviously should (if she gives a ****about her reputation) or not, doesnt matter.

    I also try and avoid social media like the plague, Im still a freshman trader but the constant BS and flashes of PnL is still not good for my trading either. However, I can literally ask a trader who discusses their PnL two questions and sum them up as a trader and get a good glimpse of them as a person, by only those two answers, and see if I wanna make bestest friendzys ever but most new traders are probably just going to get emotional & ***k ***t up by using social media in their trading.

    Besides there are great people & REAL traders here on ET you can reach out to if youre not a total d**** and make friendzys why go after the attention w***** that are mostly full of ***t on whatever the flavor of the month social media platform is?

    Did she actually answer the title of her videos question tho ? Im not sure if she is selling herself as a trader & teacher or just as entertainment but it would have been nice for her to actually answer the question that is the title of the video. However, I guess I can cut her some slack as it isnt the worst thing to attract people looking for "BUT BUT HOW MUCH CAN I MAKE YO!", and answer with how much are you willing to risk.

    So how much does this sweet piece over there make trading them stonks ???
     
    #31     Aug 20, 2020
  2. smallfil

    smallfil

    She did not answer the question directly, on how much day traders make a day because it is a difficult question to answer. If you have capital of $1,000 compared to another day trader with $10,000, obviously, the one with the $10,000 will make more monies assuming both of you know how to day trade? If you are a day trader making $10,000 a day, you probably, risking $5,000 or more per trade as most retail day traders do. You have to use the leverage of every dollar you put into the trade to payoff and give you huge returns, that is why. Of course, you are taking excessive risk when you trade that way because you just need one bad trade to wipe out a huge chunk of your capital base. Risk management and position sizing is still important because it guarantees your longevity. Trade off, is you would make less day trading because you are risking less monies compared to other day traders.
     
    #32     Aug 20, 2020
  3. Yes, I believe I can do it.

    There is nothing else to do it.

    It is best to get rich trading. I am not sure the purpose of trading if not to make over a million a year.
     
    #33     Aug 20, 2020
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  4. Stockboy

    Stockboy

    Yes, and thank you. but I already knew all of that.

    She could have easily finished with, with my account of X, I averaged X during X, while having drawdowns of X. No need to try to fancily avoid the question. It might sound fancy but it is still avoiding the actual question.

    but maybe I mean expecting someone that claims to be a trader, and has a video literally ****ing titled, "how much do traders make", to offer an answer is just outright silly if not rude of me.

    Maybe try and pitch your or her explanation while trying to raise funds from investors. Im sure theyll be thrilled at the logic of it all. and quite impressed if I must say.
     
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    #34     Aug 20, 2020
  5. YOU CAN DO IT!!!

     
    #35     Aug 20, 2020
  6. I wish you good luck .
    It is very possible.
    99.999% of people have a loser mentality.
    I have almost the same goal as you.
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2020
    #36     Aug 21, 2020
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  7. Thank you trader221,

    I only trade to eventually make +$1 Million per year. $500K per year would be great too.

    No other reason to trade.
     
    #37     Aug 21, 2020
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  8. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    1,000,000/yr = 19,230/wk(52) = 3,846/wkday(5)

    Factor in losing days, holidays, time off, vacations, etc, = 5,000/wkday

    5000/wkday consistently is much more of an issue than the 5k amount... We have zero control or input as to what is offered in which markets on any day.

    Size matters.

    5 dollar foot long time.

    Have a good weekend all.
     
    #38     Aug 21, 2020
  9. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Depends on size, trade NQ trade at $100 per pt and only 50pts per day, I'm up 40 on.NQ and 20 on Gold.area today.

    Move to YM and 50pts happens 10 times per day.

    Potential is huge, learning curve to get there is also huge.
     
    #39     Aug 21, 2020
  10. virtusa

    virtusa

    Traders who can make that 1 million use compounding, which is logical. So your calculation is wrong. That means that at the start you don't need to make $5,000 a day at all.

    To make a simulation, if you would trade the ES, you need:
    • account size
    • margin used
    • max number of contracts
    Depending on these numbers you can reach your goal with low or high profits.

    5000$ profit trading 100 contracts means $50 per contract,so just 1 points ES.
    5000$ profit trading 1 contract means $5000 per contract,so 100 points ES.

    1 point is a no brainer; 100 points is impossible. So size matters. But as size is linked with enough capital, leverage matters too.
     
    #40     Aug 21, 2020