Reality for an Individual Trader

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by drader77, Mar 7, 2017.

  1. JSOP

    JSOP

    Yeah but how Goldman Sachs f***'ed everybody by KNOWINGLY dumping their toxic ABS that initiated the financial crisis of 2008 so that they can get ahead of everybody, that REALLY speaks volume of relationship values.
     
    #111     Mar 8, 2017
  2. JSOP

    JSOP

    Well technically the pros do NOT get the information faster because all information are disseminated at EXACTLY the same time to everybody including the individual traders BUT the news TRAVELS to the pros faster because of the network structure of the news feed broadcaster that the pros use so when the individual traders get the news after 223 milliseconds once it's disseminated, the pros got it after only 220 milliseconds because their feed is "low latency feed" so the pros end up getting the news faster.

    So Buy1Sell2 is NOT incorrect and he/she clarified EXACTLY what I wanted to find out. But I appreciate the additional insight from @sle.
     
    #112     Mar 8, 2017
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  3. sle

    sle

    I am talking about personal relationships - obviously, at the firm level the only thing that matters is the bottom line.
     
    #113     Mar 8, 2017
  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Correct. ---and the extra point is that info is all reflected in the chart.indicator combo and that is where to look for full information.
     
    #114     Mar 8, 2017
  5. JSOP

    JSOP

    Well of course that's how Bernie Madoff was able to get $65 BILLION for his Ponzi scheme, all through private exclusive clubs of "relationships".

    You gotta love the financial world, most of the time it's the bottom line that counts and during the rare moments when relationship values really does mean something, you end up investing in a Ponzi scheme. :rolleyes:
     
    #115     Mar 8, 2017
  6. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    They do receive the news items way faster than you unless you are also willing to invest hundreds of thousands in direct connections, news feeds, and all the hardware and man power that is behind it and connects all the pieces. Your news feed is delivered over the web and at best a tcp socket on your windows machine, subject to dozens to hundreds of milliseconds latency. That is by definition slower than what the big boys are using. Which part lacks clarity? Please explain and we can dive into more detail.

     
    #116     Mar 8, 2017
  7. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    No need he knows, he just likes to flame.

     
    #117     Mar 8, 2017
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  8. JSOP

    JSOP

    You need to read my most recent posts before responding. I assume you have low enough latency to read them before responding? :p
     
    #118     Mar 8, 2017
  9. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    How can a news item that has not been traded on be reflected in the price or chart for that matter? When I am the first to receive a market moving news item then certainly is that information NOT yet reflected in the price.

     
    #119     Mar 8, 2017
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  10. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    Then please jump right to my previous post. If you are the first to receive market moving news then that is not yet reflected in the price and hence you have an edge over everyone else. There is a reason some players are dishing out millions to stay on top of the latency game. They place their trades and you are the sucker who chases the price hoping there are even bigger suckers that move your cart a bit further or else you give up altogether capitalizing on such events if you believe you are equipped with inferior technology.

     
    #120     Mar 8, 2017