I am sure this topic has been discussed in one of the forums here before, but i am unable to locate any useful thread (and there are hundreds that come up with different keywords for searches). So here i go with an old question, and would like answer from top traders who have been trading for a living for atleast 5 years successfully (so your beginning years dont count which probably are the best). To make it down to earth and avoid generic answers that i have seen before here are some criteria..... Initial starting capital = 50k Percent at risk on any given day = 30% (based on my system's profitability analysis) = 15k. Leverage instrument = naked options on spy, trading the directionality of the day. (or you can consider ES futures) Preferably i would like to answers from those who are trading ES or trading options on SPY. But i welcome answers from any veteran trader. Please avoid generic answers, since i am past the stage intermediate and already making consistent profits. This is simply a question to vet my curiosity. I know what an average hedge fund makes and other such things, but want to see if there are any successful short term traders who are able to acheive much greater annual returns consistently. Weekly or monthly or annual returns are all welcome. Thanks - s. PS: please avoid silly answers to make this thread more useful to others in future, who might search the same topic.