Ahh OK 5 you are talking about the delta, i figured so just wanted to confirm. My worry is not with the tool but the operator (me). I have found that it tends to drag you down into the minutiae. Its not a question of seeing the forest for the trees but actually watching the leaves! I guess I have a couple of options. Work on discipline and remember where I am from regular charts. Use the tool (MD) around S/R and not get hypnotised into 'tikkitis'. Or simply embrace it and work on a more 'scalp' orientated strategy (using a loose definition of scalp i.e. trading for a few ticks). Using MD solely and messing with a simulator (DAX & YM) I can hit about 80% hit rate for 4-10 ticks. To do this however I am relying on price 'coming back' to broken levels for a scratch. Losses occur when they don't and can be 10-15 ticks. Not sure if this is wise to be honest. Sorry I've hijacked your thread a bit Piggie maybe I should start new MarketDelta one? I wonder if any of the experienced MD users here might be prepared to chip in? As I said earlier I am a user of but one week. However I think my studies of price action, Wycoff Volume spread etc. has put me in good stead. Cheers.