Hi There were 8 trades and non of them even hit the target but the result of the signals is not showing the management, THEY ARE SHOWING MARKET DIRECTION Recognition. Can you tell me how many of them was true? I'm happy for yesterday result, as it cause to hearing different sound from this Thread. Did you check Thursday trades and result? why nobody post anything after that? Is there anybody who trade by Friday signals and didn't mange them to lock on profit? Can you tell me how many of signals was making money but couldn't get filled because market hit 2 ticks below or above the entry and order didn't executed? WINBORN
Since I began this Thread, the negativity of some posts affected my trading and I'm considering to stop posting signals here forever AND I'M SURE YOU WILL BE HAPPY. If you like to the past Signal's result, then simply search in Twitter or Facebook and comeback to me. Winborn Traders
The truth is this happens to everyone. It's called trading in real life. It's amazing how much easier it is to trade when you don't have to worry about a tick here or a tick there or getting actual execution. These small things make all the difference in the world. It gets even worse when you trade with a real account, because sometimes your target gets hit, but you don't get filled. That really sucks. The way for a guru to work around this is to say, oh you should have managed the trade and taken some profits, what's wrong with you? But that's bull shit. If you took profits early some times, then you would have to all the time. Especially for your calls because the targets are already so small. Your risk/ reward is so small, you really can't even think about taking profits early. The truth is, you're trading like a newbie, and this is exactly how it works out. You struggle and struggle to barely turn a profit, and then one day, boom, there goes the whole month and then you're negative again. Even with the benefit of trading a fake account, you still get hit. At this point you give up, and become a guru. It's an old trick, and people like you stick out like a soar thumb.
1) The OP has stated many times he has no intention of doing any of the above. 2) There is a huge difference between a trading journal where there is discussions about the market, the trades, the methodology with charts or even blotters etc and this "signal" thread wich can be essentially summarised in this post: :eek: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) When someone comes here to sollicit others to trade his trading signals explicitly (even for free) it is perfectly legit one questions his intentions and his fills. 2) Furthemore when handles are created just for the purpose of defending the signal service, it is legit we question their true intentions. You see, "noise", "garbage".... it's like beauty; it's in the eyes of the beholder. Good long weekend everyone. PS I might be wrong but it seems to me you give the OP so much credit because you own a trading website/chatroom yourself, so you probably know what growing a customer base is - which is fine when it's straightforward. But maybe that affects your objectivity here.
You may want to highlight the issue I raised that the OP thread is flawed in comparison to journals in the Journal section. In fact, I highly recommend that you review some of the highlighted journals (trade diaries) in my prior message that I consider to be good trade journals that contain broker statements, brief market commentaries et cetera that this journal does not have. -------- Another way to put it...signal call trade journals like this attracts the worst that ET can offer. In contrast, trade diaries like those in the journal section tend to attract the best that ET can offer (folks being polite, professional, helpful, sharing et cetera) considering they give ET members what they ask for. Further, I'm not a fan of journals like this journal and my posting history here at ET has a few commentaries about such concerning signal calls. Just as important, I don't need to be unprofessional and start mudslinging with personal attacks with signal callers to express my views about their journals. -------- Therefore, for you to suggest I'm giving the OP "so much credit" is either a sign that you lack good reading skills (not a personal attack) or a sign that my English is very poor... I will assume my English was poor. Simply, to be more direct if you're still having problems in understanding me. This thread is poorly setup. (bold letters so that the point isn't overlooked). However, the OP can easily fix such via starting his thread a new in the journal section via including verification info, brief personal commentaries about the trading day along with responding with brief basic concepts about his trade method without revealing any in-depth details about the method if ever questioned about the method. ET History - signal call journals rarely last even if there was no mudslinging. Thus, if you don't like them like me because you prefer trade diaries instead of signal calling journals...just let evolution do its thing. All of the above you can verify via reviewing the links of good "trade diaries" via the links I've posted in my reply to the OP of this thread. Hopefully, my english is clear now that I'm not giving the OP "so much credit" when in fact I'm giving him recommendation on what needs to be done (if he's interested in building a readership) to have similar like "trade diary" as the others. By the way, Baron and Joe have specifically stated over the years that there's NOTHING WRONG with ET members being vendors as long as they don't promote their services here as a none sponsor. So far, the OP has not done that and when/if he does...he should be reported immediately. Baron and Joe usually respond via a quick BAN as soon as they receive complaints with verification. However, if he is a vendor or has plans to be a vendor in the futures, that's cool as long as he doesn't promote/advertise and continue freely sharing regardless if the free info is good or bad. The last statement above was taken out of Baron's own commentary a few years back. P.S. In this signal calling journal...so far...there's no solicitation, no promotion, no advertising, no links to fee-base service, no asking others to send email addresses, no "if you want to know more please contact me" statements, no promotion of another vendor et cetera as a few journals in the journal section have recently done (journals I have not highlighted in my prior message. If you disagree and a better use of your time & energy...please contact Baron @ http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=2 Mark
So now your trades suck because of the negativity. Seems like your trading strategy is awfully fragile.
Your own trade journal does not have any broker statements for verification although the trades are posted in advance. In addition, in another thread, Baron has disciplined you for "personal attacks" via DELETING a bulk of your messages in another thread along with posting a warning specifically to you in that thread about such for all to see. Simply...Baron obviously disagrees with your point of view that "personal attacks" and "mudslinging" that it's good that it's done. However, I do strongly agree with you if you meant to say that if someone post incorrect or questionable trade info...questions should be asked. Yet, leave out the personal attacks and mudslinging...remain professional...act mature. By the way, it's odd that Baron himself has been getting more involved in threads outside of the feedback section. Maybe he's feeling a financial pinch from sponsors and has decided to clean up the crap considering this forum is an income source for him. Eventually someone will show up and ask for broker statements for verification of your signal calls that are called in advance. I'm curious what you will do or say if/when such happens in your trade journal. Hopefully, personal attacks and mudslinging doesn't occur and folks can debate the issue while remaining professional. Mark
Well, I don't know what you're talking about. But anyway, the difference between my thread and yours is that my trades are posted way in advance, and they're profitable. No one would be asking for your brokerages statements if your trades were posted way in advance and profitable.
Mark, these are all good points/suggestions you made but the OP stated he didn't want to do so, more than once. Anyway... Out of town now for a sunny weekend