Real Estates Black Hole Miami Condos 2008 To 2010

Discussion in 'Economics' started by the gardner, Aug 26, 2007.

  1. Don't worry so much, with global warming, every property in Miami will soon have a turn at becoming ocean front property. Just like I always wanted to move south when I retire, I don't have to, the south is already moving up here.
     
    #71     Sep 11, 2007
  2. it has been said that only 7000 condos were sold between 02 and today......and their are 8000 comming on the mkt this yr alone

    its interesting to walk at night and look up at the buildings their all empty......vacant

    eventually i would like to buy one...for 20 cents on the dollar...from a bank.

    all of the benefits florida originally had have eroded...

    insurance is high and going higher
    taxes ...up up and up
    maintance rising 5 6 percent a year
    hurricane risk is nuts...ie cat 5
    and global warming is no joke for floridas elevations

    it really is going to get very bad
     
    #72     Sep 11, 2007
  3. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    you forgot to mention the nice latina punani ...:D
     
    #73     Sep 11, 2007
  4. Si, pero ellas salian menos el dinero. Adios Papi Chulo!
     
    #74     Sep 11, 2007
  5. Does that mean I can come down there for the NBA playoffs this year and crash at your pad??

    (GO pistons!)


    :D
     
    #75     Sep 11, 2007
  6. ElCubano

    ElCubano


    papi chulo....hahahaha descarado sabes hablar espanol...cuando quieras venir a defrutar dejame saber....:D
     
    #76     Sep 11, 2007
  7. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    only heat fans walk through my doors holmes....:D
     
    #77     Sep 11, 2007
  8. I believe that was me commenting on the overall housing stocks (CFC) but it applies to any asset really including real estate.

    I was commenting on how to play turn around stocks. Once again In a nut shell... Never try and pick bottoms. It isn't really about picking bottoms but how to smartly invest in turnaround plays. You end up getting close to the bottom without further downside risk by sacrificing a few $$$. You never know where bottoms may be and where prices end up. Stocks can go up up up(bubbles) and defy logic or anything resembling a fair valuation. Stocks can go down down down (bear market) to far lower levels than you can imagine.

    Example. A $50 stock is cut in more than half say $20. The impatient foolish investor thinks this is a good buy, the stock has come down so much and it will come back. $20 is a great price, it was once fifty and it is a big name company and will turn around. Bad mistake to buy here. The stock can continue to fall further. That co may more than likely recover but the stock can wallow for months and months and you don't want to be caught in dead money at $20. Then the stock goes from $20 to $15 to $10 to $5. And You thought $20 was a great price!!! IS $5 the bottom? Who knows. Here is What you want to do...sacrifice some $ (which ends up being pennies) and buy when the trend reverses. Buy when there is light at the end of the tunnel when things begin to turnaround. When the news goes from terrible to some signs of improvement and the stocks and industry sector market turns around and begins it's up trend. You sacrifice some $$$ to see a clear view of the turnaround. You don't need to buy at $5 or even $10. Wait and be patient. The stock goes from $5 to10. You start buying at maybe $12, or even higher $15+ and the stock goes back up on its trend reversal to new highs and you let your profits run and you make nice money.

    The problem is people are greedy, cheap, stupid and especially impatient and want to get THE BEST price. It is a natural instinct and psychological mistake of traders/investors. You don't need the best price and you will 99% of the time never get it. It does not matter. You still get a great price with lower downside risk or exposure and dead money for a few pennies in the end.

    That condo that was $500K looks good at $375K. Wait it may bottom at $275K and you can buy it at $300K on the upswing back to $500K. You can see right on this board people ready to make mistakes in RE by being impatient. It is one of the most common investor/trader mistakes.
     
    #78     Sep 11, 2007
  9. miami is uninsureable in the event of a major storm

    damage estimates are upwards of 150 billion

    insurance cos would go broke...as would many developers

    it would be new orleans all over again
     
    #79     Sep 12, 2007
  10. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    i dont think so....the reason for 99% of the damage in NO was not the actual hurricane winds...it was the fact that they are below sea level and had to endure a massive flood from the surge and the broken levee's...im not saying that we couldnt get rocked, but we aint in that type of scenario....although had hurricane andrew hit dead on into south beach and the downtown area the number would have been double...more like $60 billion IMO
     
    #80     Sep 12, 2007