Re-opening Schools in the era of COVID

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Provide the data sets that show COVID information from all universities.

    Let's go through them and look at the hospitalization and fatality rate for students.

    Provide the link. I'm ready.
     
    #381     Nov 2, 2020
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #382     Nov 2, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The New York Time portal and article I posted earlier has all the data.
     
    #383     Nov 2, 2020
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I've read your article: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-college-cases-tracker.html

    If this is not the same article, please inform me which one is.

    I looked at the raw CSV data. There is data on cases, but none on hospitalizations or deaths. Can you point me to where that is?
     
    #384     Nov 2, 2020
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You are correct that the New York Times data set only is tracking cases -- their source which you can download is found directly in their article ---

    Get the data: Download data for coronavirus cases at colleges in the United States from The New York Timeson GitHub.
     
    #385     Nov 2, 2020
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    As I said, I already downloaded the CSV. There's nothing but case information.

    So if that is the case, how is this better than data showing hospitalization and fatality rates, even if a partial subset of all colleges?

    Isn't hospitalization and fatality data relevant to determining whether COVID is a dangerous disease to college students before deciding to shut colleges down?

    Or should it only be about the cases?
     
    #386     Nov 2, 2020
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    GWB? Don't go silent on me again when the topic doesn't go your way.

    Are there hospitalization or death rates for any college data you have?
     
    #387     Nov 2, 2020
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I am looking into it. Because universities generally are not reporting hospitalizations due to privacy concerns it is difficult to get compiled data. You can look at data in the county where the university is located but you don't know if the hospitalization is a student or not.

    There are plenty of articles about students being hospitalized but no concrete compilation of data.

    At Least A Dozen Ohio College Students Suffered Medical Emergencies from COVID-19
    https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/dayton...ts-suffered-medical-emergencies-from-covid-19

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    The deaths can be looked at from the perspective of headlines across the country outlining the deaths of students in recent weeks. The claims of zero college student COVID deaths is absolutely absurd.
     
    #388     Nov 2, 2020
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao


    So you criticized someone for "incomplete" data, and then you present the NYT which has...wait for it...incomplete data (no hospitalizations or deaths).


    Also:


    Did someone say that no college students died of COVID? Do you have that quote somewhere?

    A dozen Ohio college students suffered medical emergencies, you say? How many Ohio college students are there?
     
    #389     Nov 2, 2020
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    One point to note is that many schools that open with full attendance and effectively no social distancing (since it is impossible) start school for a mere two or three weeks before needing to shut-down and go virtual due to being overrun with COVID.

    Schools that start with alternating schedules at either 1/2 or 1/3 capacity with rotating days or weeks for the cohort of students on-site at the school and the rest virtual for that day (or week) --- are doing much better in terms of being able to stay open. Invariably when a schools with a reduced number of students on campus contends with COVID it is just a few students that need to be quarantined or a single classroom that needs to be remote for two weeks.

    Here is just one more example of a school with full attendance shutting down quickly.

    COVID-19 closes a school less than 2 weeks after IPS brought all grades back to classrooms
    https://www.indystar.com/story/news...uilding-two-weeks-after-reopening/6129642002/
     
    #390     Nov 3, 2020