Re-opening Schools in the era of COVID

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    The Education Department is investigating five states with mask-mandate bans, saying the rules may violate laws protecting students with disabilities.
    Monday, August 30, 2021 1:48 PM EST

    The department’s civil rights head wrote to state education leaders in Iowa, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Utah, notifying them the department’s Office for Civil Rights would determine whether the prohibitions are restricting access for students who are protected under federal law.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/us/politics/biden-masks-investigations-special-education.html
     
    #1081     Aug 30, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #1082     Aug 31, 2021
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    #1083     Aug 31, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So it only matters to you if the kids are dead? Kids in the hospital don't matter. Kids with Long Covid don't matter. You want a body count.

    If this was polio you would be claiming that all those kids in iron lungs are meaningless since they are not dead.
     
    #1084     Aug 31, 2021
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Well, it certainly should matter a HELL of a lot more if kids are dead, yes.

    How many died? You don't want to tell us because kids almost never, ever die from COVID. How many are permanently disabled, crippled, etc (to your silly polio comparison)?

    As for whether it matters if kids are in the hospital, of course it does. But how many vs. the last, say 10 years? Because the only way to say it is a tragedy is if it is more of a tragedy than normal.
     
    #1085     Aug 31, 2021
  6. Arnie

    Arnie

    You get dumber by the day.
     
    #1086     Aug 31, 2021
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  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao



    Good. Hopefully these little tyrants in training are retired and learn to follow the will of the people who elected them.
     
    #1087     Aug 31, 2021
  8. jem

    jem

    Just so we remember how effective clean cloth and surgical masks are...
    Then consider how often kids touch dirty ones.



    https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100

    Commonly used cloth masks work at 9 percent efficiency and Surgical masks work at 12% efficiency.
     
    #1088     Aug 31, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Yet -- even as stated in the study -- masks are 70% to 80% effective at stopping the respiratory virus spread.


    Recent observational studies and meta-analyses of mask effectiveness have estimated that mask usage reduces the risk of respiratory virus spread by 70% to 80%.22 Efficacy of home-made masks at preventing spread of influenza showed that surgical masks are three times more effective at blocking micro-organism transmission than home-made masks23–25 although none of these studies include randomized control trials.26 There is, however, evidence that communities in which masks were in widespread use exhibited significantly reduced community spread.24,25
     
    #1089     Aug 31, 2021
  10. jem

    jem

    Your links all go to one study... and it confirms exactly what I wrote above... see the bold. .


    The results demonstrate that the apparent exhalation filtration efficiency is significantly lower than the ideal filtration efficiency of the mask material. Nevertheless, high-efficiency masks, such as the KN95, still offer substantially higher apparent filtration efficiencies (60% and 46% for R95 and KN95 masks, respectively) than the more commonly used cloth (10%) and surgical masks (12%),



     
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    #1090     Aug 31, 2021