Rate hike hype

Discussion in 'Economics' started by inandlong, May 4, 2004.

  1. TGregg

    TGregg

    That's a joke, right? You forgot some punctuation like :D :D :D
     
    #11     May 4, 2004
  2. That's pretty funny, Fire'. :)

    Whether or not rates are raised this year or next.... in my very unlearned and merely empirical opinion, when the Fed starts raising rates it will be slowly and cautiously. As such, if 5% money were cheap, and 4% were, and 3%.... etc., then as far as the subject of rates goes, business should continue to grow until money is no longer cheap. We've a good 2-3 years, at least, until the cost of money becomes prohibitive to growth.

    Therefore, rate hikes should not be worrisome near and intermediate term.
     
    #12     May 4, 2004
  3. Yes... yes... forgot the punctuation...:D :D
     
    #13     May 4, 2004
  4. Osman

    Osman

    the wording they used today set up the markets for eventual incremental rate hikes. No 50basis point hikes in sight or anythng extreme.
     
    #14     May 5, 2004
  5. A rate is cheap or not only relatively to true inflation; since inflation stats has been inflated in the 80s to justify high rates at that time: this was revealed ... during the time they wanted to lower rate. I guess when they need to rake it up again they would pretend that inflation stats have been underestimated.

     
    #15     May 5, 2004
  6. Most regional banks will make money in a rising rate environment, and 40% of major money center banks make money in a rising rate environment.
     
    #16     May 5, 2004


  7. Based on what? I hear bad statistics are up 6.2% this year, that must be one of them.

    If rising rates tip a critical mass of overleveraged consumers into default, regional banks will get hurt.

    If rising rates seize up the corporate debt market, create a duration mismatch, or start a chain reaction meltdown in reverse carry trades, the major money center banks will get hurt.

    There are way too many variables in a "rising rate" environment to make a prediction that vague.
     
    #17     May 5, 2004
  8. DVB

    DVB

    It depends on the duration of assets vs. liabilities. There are some financial institutions out there that are playing games with a steep yield curve and hedge with derivatives (short Treasuries).

    DVB
     
    #18     May 5, 2004
  9. newbunch

    newbunch

    Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that. - Homer Simpson
     
    #19     May 5, 2004
  10. DVB

    DVB

    I went back to 1971 to calculate average SP500 returns during interest rate cycles. Here is what I found: average annualized SP500 return during the Fed tightening cycles was –1.46%, when it was +14.35% during the expansionary cycles.

    DVB
     
    #20     May 5, 2004