Rapper Nelly, who said he wouldn't stay in Trump hotels anymore, arrested for rape.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by peilthetraveler, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    As expected, bland non specific responses after your lies got caught.

    Simply quote the assault part from your so called link.

    You won't because you can't. Now let's watch you squirm with more half assed replies.
     
    #41     Oct 8, 2017
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's see if you can quote the parts of the lawsuit that deal with sexual assault --- for those who actually read the text it is obvious. Clearly you made no effort to expand your mind -- and just merely post nonsense while calling other people names. You absurd ignorance act and abusive online behavior has gotten old.
     
    #42     Oct 8, 2017
  3. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Again, ZERO quotes from your part, I have asked MULTIPLE times for you to quote the part that deals with assault - you refuse to do so, others also pointed out your lie. I have run out of patience with your ilk who spread lies and then pretend to be take the high road while blatantly lying.

    And talking about absurd ignorance, I don't want a guy who spread fake peer reviewed paper as real to tell me about ignorance.
     
    #43     Oct 8, 2017
  4. Tom B

    Tom B

    Why do you approve of Clinton's hideous behavior?
     
    #44     Oct 8, 2017
  5. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    WHATABOUT CLINTON!

    Let's stick to talking about Con icon pedophile Trump and his rapist behavior. You guys chose him AFTER knowing of his Epstein visits, not a single person accused Bill Clinton in courts for rape when Dems voted for him. Shows how much morals you guys have, or maybe inbreeding doesn't matter to Cons?
     
    #45     Oct 8, 2017
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's first quote one of the many relevant parts in the text of the court documents that shows that Paula Jones sued Bill Clinton for sexual assault.

    "Notwithstanding the unequivocal ruling of this Court, plaintiff, citing Fed.R.Evid. 413(d)(2), (3), and (5), now contends that she has an actionable claim of criminal sexual assault based on the Governor's alleged actions in the Excelsior Hotel and cites as authority for this proposition an Arkansas criminal statute proscribing sexual abuse in the first degree, Ark. Code Ann. § 5-14-108. Pl.'s Opp'n to Def. Clinton's Mot. for Summ. J. at 23-24." as found in http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/pjones/docs/order040198.htm

    I will note that the Supreme Court found the claims of sexual assault made in the state court filing were not relevant to the upper court case -- which was focused on if a civilian could sue a sitting president on the grounds of sexual harassment (which is covered in under the federal legal code as the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment conferring a right to be free from gender discrimination). There were also questions if Governor Clinton's actions in the hotel rose to the level to be considered criminal sexual assault -- while it clearly was sexual harassment under both state & federal law.

    The Washington Post very kindly provides all the court filings and information on the case of Jones vs. Clinton.

    Legal Documents
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/pjones/legal.htm

    Overview
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/pjones/pjones.htm

    Text of original complaint filed by Paula Corbin Jones in May 1994

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/pjones/docs/complaint.htm

    The text of the legal documents contain gems about Bill Clinton's conduct including the following:

    Plaintiff states that upon arriving at the suite and announcing herself, the Governor shook her hand, invited her in, and closed the door. Pl.'s Statement of Mat. Facts, ¶¶ 7-8. She states that a few minutes of small talk ensued, which included the Governor asking her about her job and him mentioning that Dave Harrington, plaintiff's ultimate superior within the AIDC and a Clinton appointee, was his "good friend. " Id. ¶8; Am. Compl. ¶17. Plaintiff states that the Governor then "unexpectedly reached over to [her], took her hand, and pulled her toward him, so that their bodies were close to each other." Pl.'s Statement of Mat. Facts, ¶9. She states she removed her hand from his and retreated several feet, but that the Governor approached her again and, while saying, "I love the way your hair flows down your back" and "I love your curves," put his hand on her leg, started sliding it toward her pelvic area, and bent down to attempt to kiss her on the neck, all without her consent. Id. ¶¶9-10; Pl.'s Depo. at 237-38. Plaintiff states that she exclaimed, "What are you doing?," told the Governor that she was "not that kind of girl," and "escaped" from the Governor's reach "by walking away from him." Pl.'s Statement of Mat. Facts, ¶11; Pl.'s Depo. at 237. She states she was extremely upset and confused and, not knowing what to do, attempted to distract the Governor by chatting about his wife. Pl.'s Statement of Mat. Facts, ¶11. Plaintiff states that she sat down at the end of the sofa nearest the door, but that the Governor approached the sofa where she had taken a seat and, as he sat down, "lowered his trousers and underwear, exposed his penis (which was erect) and told [her] to 'kiss it.' " Id. She states that she was "horrified" by this and that she "jumped up from the couch" and told the Governor that she had to go, saying something to the effect that she had to get back to the registration desk. Id. ¶12. Plaintiff states that the Governor, "while fondling his penis," said, "Well, I don't want to make you do anything you don't want to do," and then pulled up his pants and said, "If you get in trouble for leaving work, have Dave call me immediately and I'll take care of it." Id. She states that as she left the room (the door of which was not locked), the Governor "detained" her momentarily, "looked sternly" at her, and said, "You are smart. Let's keep this between ourselves." Id.; Pl.'s Depo. at 94, 96-97.
     
    #46     Oct 8, 2017
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    You forgot to quote the relevant part

    While the Court will certainly agree that plaintiffs allegations describe offensive conduct, the Court, as previously noted, has found that the Governor's alleged conduct does not constitute sexual assault
     
    #47     Oct 8, 2017
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Your claim was that Bill Clinton was never sued for sexual assault. You said "name just one case" where he was sued. I demonstrated clearly one case where he was sued for sexual assault. Yes -- as I mentioned in my summary above the case went forward on the basis of the sexual harassment claim.
     
    #48     Oct 8, 2017
  9. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    He wasnt, the judge is pronouncing that the case doesn't qualify under assault claims. Clinton was sued for harassment and not assault, that's how Jones approached the court.
     
    #49     Oct 8, 2017
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Jones stated very clearly her claim of sexual assault - ""Notwithstanding the unequivocal ruling of this Court, plaintiff, citing Fed.R.Evid. 413(d)(2), (3), and (5), now contends that she has an actionable claim of criminal sexual assault based on the Governor's alleged actions in the Excelsior Hotel and cites as authority for this proposition an Arkansas criminal statute proscribing sexual abuse in the first degree, Ark. Code Ann. § 5-14-108. Pl.'s Opp'n to Def. Clinton's Mot. for Summ. J. at 23-24."

    The claims for both sexual assault and sexual harassment were both very much part of the suit.
     
    #50     Oct 8, 2017