I just did a random test on es (the old fashioned way, by going over some old charts) rules: 1. enter random long 1 tick above current candle on 5 min chrt or enter short one tick below current candle on 5 min chrt 2. scalp for 1 point with no stops results: 24 straight wins for 1 pt or 24 points per contract the last trade has me long at 949.00 so that is about a 29 point paper loss (only 5 if you count the previous wins), but I'm sure it will come back and take out 950.25 to give me my 1 pt. But here's the thing. You turn that random entry into a 1 point stop loss instead of a 1 pt scalping profit target, and there were my friend some fairly awesome moves. Like 20 or 30 points easy. So, I'm just wondering, I'm pretty sure that eventually you will get wiped out scalping with no stops, not to mention there were days where you were down 20 points with nothing to do but sit around waiting for your 1 point profit, but is turning it around feasable? I mean a very tight stop 1 or 1.5 and a very large target like 20 minimum. I think 20 would net you about 5 (that is, after the 15 stop outs) and probably take about 15 r/ts so that's hmmm more like 3.5 net. Either way, what I'm talking about is radical risk to reward, either 1 to 25 (which when you think about it, after all the probable stops it's more like 15 to 25), or infinity to 1. And after the day I had, they both look pretty good.