“Rain falls from the sky but I never understood wind”

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TRS, Dec 23, 2019.

  1. wildchild

    wildchild

    All his criticisms were pretty fair. You dont have much of a point.
     
    #31     Dec 27, 2019
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  2. TRS

    TRS

    I can’t even understand his points. I had forgotten that the expression and communication of ideas had been reduced to such a rambling, garbled, incoherent mish mash of uneducated simplistic single syllable talking points devoid of vision aimed at mouth breathing simpletons.
     
    #32     Dec 27, 2019
  3. gaussian

    gaussian

    That's neat, whos alt are you?
     
    #33     Dec 27, 2019



  4. What, there were no science courses at Trump University?!?!
     
    #34     Dec 27, 2019
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  5. wildchild

    wildchild

    They were pretty clear. You lack comprehension skills.
     
    #35     Dec 27, 2019
  6. wildchild

    wildchild

    Great example, Robert Reich is one of the worst people in the world.

     
    #36     Dec 27, 2019
  7. TRS

    TRS

    The future of energy is being shaped in Asia
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    China now accounts for almost three-quarters of global solar panel production.
    Image: REUTERS
    27 Dec 2019
    1. Francois AustinPartner, Oliver Wyman

    This article is part of the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting
    A Frenchman is credited with being the first to discover the photovoltaic effect that produces electricity from sunlight. The first solar panel was built in the US. But when Abu Dhabi decided to build the world’s largest individual solar power project, they looked east for help.

    The country partnered with Chinese and Japanese companies to construct a facility, which opened this year, with a peak capacity of 1.18 gigawatts generated by 3.2 million solar panels. That’s because Asia, more than any other region on the planet, and China, more than any other nation, currently represent the future of solar energy, and are at the heart of the ensuing industrywide transformation from fossil fuels to renewable and nuclear energy.

    Decarbonization is changing the face of energy and the world economy in more ways than most consumers — and even most executives — appreciate. Besides the transition from molecule to electron, as this move toward electrification suggests, it is also shifting the industry’s economic base from West to East and reconfiguring the hierarchy of companies and geographies that define energy.

    Asia is the 800-pound gorilla in the energy story. First, its continued economic growth and rising standard of living will make its constituent nations pre-eminent energy consumers for the foreseeable future. A study by BP indicates that Asia, including China and India, will represent 43% of global energy demand by 2040, and through that year, the region will account for more than 50% of the growth in demand. In contrast, energy demand among the 36 nations in the OECD, which includes most big economies in the Americas and Europe, will be flat.

    China's sunny outlook
    Second, places like China are already among the most important suppliers of non-fossil fuel-based energy and technology. By 2017, China owned 72%of the world's solar photovoltaic module production; in comparison, the US has 1% and Europe 2%. Of the eight top producers, six are Asian. Not including hydropower, China has somewhere around one-third of the world’s installed renewable capacity; the EU has a little over a quarter; and the US accounts for 14%. China also leads in the generation of hydropower.

    As the electrification of transportation advances and demand grows for renewable energy storage solutions, China looks likely to monopolize here, too. China produces at least two-thirds of the world’s production capacity for lithium-ion batteries, which are used in electric vehicles (EVs), mobile phones and laptop computers (some estimates put their share at closer to 70%), and it looks likely to hang on to that lead through at least 2028. And besides being the largest market for EVs, China also controls the bulk of production.

    China is the third-largest miner of the primary raw material used to produce those batteries, lithium — often referred to as white petroleum because of its mounting economic importance. Chinese producers are also buying up lithium reserves in Chile, the world's second-largest lithium miner (Australia takes the top spot).

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    China and India accounted for almost half of the world's growth of demand for energy in 2018
    Image: BP Statistical Review of World Energy 2019
    A fundamental overhaul
    Of course, climate change is forcing the energy industry to undergo an existential transformation that may eventually see the elimination of fossil fuels entirely. While most executives at oil companies will be dead or at least retired before that transition proceeds to what seems its inevitable end, the slowing of demand is already being felt.

    Worldwide, demand for oil will peak in around 2034, according to Vitol, a Switzerland-based energy and commodity trading company. Wood Mackenzie, a commercial intelligence consultancy, reckons demand in the developed world has probably already topped out, with the OECD expected to move into structural decline by next year. The global demand for liquid fuel is about to see its growth rate take a dramatic dip over the next five years.

    By contrast, the demand for electricity seems insatiable. Electrification rates continue to rise across the globe, with Asia expected to be close to 100% coverage by 2030. Much of that growth in demand may be supplied by renewables and nuclear power rather than fossil fuel-generated power, although natural gas is expected to play a role for years to come. It also may be accomplished through a decentralization of generating capacity, such as recent rural electrification projects in places like Malawi and Bangladesh where farmers and villages use solar panels and small generators to provide their own electricity.

    Yet despite the urgency of climate concerns and the rapidly falling cost of renewable energy, the speed at which this existential energy transition will happen is uncertain, as pre- and post-tax subsidies on fossil fuels remain in place, discouraging consumers to make the change to a more environmentally beneficial and frequently cheaper source of energy. The International Monetary Fund estimates post-tax subsidies on fossil fuels like coal and petroleum — a result of unpriced externalities, such as societal costs from air pollution and global warming — totalled $5.2 trillion in 2017.

    Regardless of the speed of transformation, there’s no doubt it is already well under way. That’s why places like the United Arab Emirates (of which Abu Dhabi is the largest) are building solar power and nuclear facilities, despite being the world’s eighth-largest oil producer — and making the transition with Asian partners. They see the future.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/12/energy-transition-climate-asia-china-india/





    Trump Administration Rolls Back LED Light Bulb Standards
    “The bulbs do not last long enough for the energy savings to surpass the higher upfront price.”

    By Caroline Delbert
    Dec 27, 2019
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    WIKIMEDIA COMMONS

    • The Department of Energy has refused to enforcesuggested light bulb efficiency standards.
    • Incandescent bulbs are the hottest, shortest-lived, and least energy-efficient bulbs.
    • U.S. households will likely continue to use energy-efficient bulbs anyway.
    President Trump’s Department of Energy (DOE) has decided not to enforce raised standards for traditional incandescent light bulbs. Light bulbs may not seem like the largest issue in the world, but they’re a canary in the coal mine of energy policy; switching to LED bulbs is an extremely simple, accessible, money-saving change that almost everyone can make easily.
    By choosing to go against recommendations to introduce limits on incandescent bulbs, Trump’s administration is continuing to take a stand against energy-saving innovations in general—even the ones that benefit consumers in a hands-on way.

    “DOE’s analysis determined that more stringent standards for GSILs [general service incandescent lamps] would have increased the price of those light bulbs by 300 percent. This increase is not economically justified because the bulbs do not last long enough for the energy savings to surpass the higher upfront price,” the department says. In other words, an incandescent bulb held to recommended standards would cost so much that it wouldn’t be worth paying for.
    There may be people who only have access to incandescent bulbs. For everyone else, CFL or LED bulbs represent a wild savings in energy and in operating cost over time, according to the DOE. In fact, the original energy-saving lightbulb advice—to switch the lights off when you leave the room—is contraindicated for incandescent bulbs and shortens their life. There are incandescent bulbs that have lasted for 100 years, but that longevity doesn’t come with efficiency or even brightness. Most of the longest-lasting bulbs have unconventional filaments that avoid the telltale tink! of a breaking tungsten filament.

    The DOE’s focus on financial feasibility is interesting, because consumers have chosen to adopt LED bulbs over time despite a veryhigh cost at the beginning. Without these early adopters, momentum would likely have been much slower. Now, cities are racing to ban plastic straws—a tiny gesture that mostly hurts disabled people who need to use straws—but struggling to hold up larger energy-saving policies. The reason an up-front regulation works with lightbulbs is that a higher cost would discourage consumers. Even the nosiest local governments can’t roam the streets to peek into windows and identify illicit incandescent bulbs.
    Over time, use of incandescent bulbs continues to fall even without costly new standards. In a feature earlier this year, the New York Times reported that just 6 percent of lightbulbs in home use in 2016 in the U.S. were incandescent bulbs, down from 68 percent in 2010. That feature corresponded with a previous Trump rollback of an Obama administration policy that sought to include all lightbulb shapes, not just classic round or “pear-shaped” bulbs. It was President George W. Bush who signed the first national lightbulb standard in 2007, and the DOE has rolled back the second phase of this policy.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a30338469/trump-led-light-bulb-rollback/

     
    #37     Dec 27, 2019
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    I am not having a discussion with H4M. I just pointed out a quote he pasted from the article. I am debating the article itself, not anything H4M typed as original content. I am, in fact, pointing out said hypocrisy, but in a more subtle way. The staisdata study shows that wind turbines are much less damaging to the bird population than, say, cats. Trump is whining about " a million birds".

    He should issue an executive order to force cats to run like gerbils on a wheel to make the wind-turbines run with belts and gears. This way he is killing two birds with one stone. Cats no longer killing billions of birds, so less birds dead overall while powering the turbines. Would work especially well on days with not enough wind.
     
    #38     Dec 27, 2019
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  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    So Trump builds shiny glass buildings and will have been nagged about them so he finds another target to deflect as is his habit.

    "Wind turbines kill an estimated 140,000 to 328,000 birds each year in North America, making it the most threatening form of green energy. And yet, it's also one of the most rapidly expanding energy industries: more than 49,000 individual wind turbines now exist across 39 states."

    VS:


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...37fe80-8866-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html

    Stop blaming cats: As many as 988 million birds die annually in window collisions.



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    Up to 988 million birds collide with windows and die. The biggest share comes not from skyscrapers but from crashes into smaller buildings. (OGNEN TEOFILOVSKI/REUTERS)
    By Susan Milius and
    Science News
    February 3, 2014
    Hundreds of millions of birds die
    each year from crashing into windows
    Between 365 and 988 million birds die from crashing into windows in the United States each year, according to a new report. That may be as much as 10 percent of the estimated total bird population of the country.

    The estimate puts windows behind only cats as the largest source of human-related menaces that kill birds directly.

    The biggest share of the collision deaths comes not from glass massacres at skyscrapers but from occasional collisions with the nation’s many small buildings, says Scott Loss of Oklahoma State University in Stillwater. “It’s death by a million nicks.”

    Buildings four to 11 stories tall account for about 56 percent of deaths in the new estimate, Loss and his colleagues report in the Condor: Ornithological Applications. Residences that are one to three stories tall make up around 44 percent, with skyscrapers representing less than 1 percent.

    Any given small building kills only a few birds each year, vs. the 24 expected to die annually at a single skyscraper. But the United States has about 15.1 million low-rises and 122.9 million small residences, and only about 21,000 skyscrapers. Loss applauds efforts to make skyscrapers bird-friendly, but he cautions that protecting birds takes a broader effort.

    Some species appear especially vulnerable to the deceptions of windows, Loss and his colleagues find. Among the possible reasons are disorientation from artificial lights for birds on long-haul migrations at night. Compiling data from all kinds of buildings, the team found that Anna’s hummingbirds, black-throated blue warblers, ruby-throated hummingbirds, Townsend’s solitaires and golden-winged warblers topped the risk list.

    There’s no nationwide reporting of birds’ thumping into glass or succumbing to a paw, so estimating death tolls has long been difficult and controversial. The new estimate of mortality from windows, based on statistical analysis of 23 local studies, comes close to an old estimate (100 million to 1 billion) that had been derided for its simple, back-of-the-envelope approach. “We were a little surprised,” Loss says.

    There are plenty of uncertainties in extrapolating from small, diverse, local studies, particularly in trying to estimate overall species vulnerabilities, says Wayne Thogmartin of the U.S. Geological Survey in LaCrosse, Wis. But even such imperfect science has value, he says. For one thing, it may inspire people to start filling in gaps in data.

    The total for window kills isn’t the whole story, though, says ornithologist Daniel Klem Jr. of Muhlenberg College in Allentown, Pa., who did the earlier calculation: “The moral imperative of preventing even one unwanted and unintended death of these utilitarian and aesthetically pleasing creatures is, or should be, compelling enough.”
     
    #39     Dec 27, 2019
  10. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    But it is good to see that @Snarkhund now understands that wind turbines DO replay their construction costs unless you happen to put them in a very bad location. Which you would not do (I'd expect a few outliers with perverse tax incentives in the USA). Simples.
     
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    #40     Dec 27, 2019