Racial crime stat facts.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by cheval fonce, Oct 9, 2010.

  1. rew

    rew

    A black man can knock a white person down from behind, stomp on his head, call him a "cracker", and then steal his wallet, and the crime will be labeled economic, not a hate crime. So I am unimpressed by those statistics.
     
    #41     Oct 11, 2010
  2. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    #42     Oct 11, 2010
  3. No they aren't typical. For example, poor white countries and even poor white areas in rich countries don't have stats on part with these. For example violent crime in the poorer white nations, such as Moldova, Georgia, or Romania do not have such stats. Crowding and noise are not correlated. For example the gold coast of Chicago, Lincoln Park of Chicago, the City and Canary Wharf of London, are all highly crowded and noisy areas, yet far more safe than less crowded neighboring areas. The gold goast and lincoln park are as or more crowded than south and west chicago, yet nowhere near as dangerous. Hollywood isn't much more crowded, and is every bit as loud as South Central or East LA. Again, the single best mathematically valid indicator of violent crime in an area is how much of the population is black or hispanic. Maybe wind too? With all due respect Ricter, you seem to be grasping at straws to support a position in the face of hard and decisive quantitative data.

    Remember, the problems will never get better so long as we refuse to be honest about what the problems actually are. It takes bravery and courage to step beyond the PC paradigm and address problems honestly, but meaningful progress will not occur until there's a willingness to do so.

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    #43     Oct 11, 2010
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    ignore him. bigdavediode is the forum bonehead and incapable of thinking with any intellectual horsepower beyond that of a mentally challenged 5 year old.
     
    #44     Oct 11, 2010
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  6. Eight

    Eight

    BigDaveDiode is a program called Artificial Stupidity, it's an offshoot of AI...
     
    #46     Oct 11, 2010
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    First of all, we are talking about averages, statistics, and you started out with those yourself. Second, you didn't associate bottom tier anti-social behaivor with gini coefficients. There are even worse bottom tier groups than our own, Latin America comes to mind, and the violence there makes ours look rather tame. And they aren't black. And those other variables are associated, I don't care if you did spend your day cherry picking from wikipedia. But they are not the only variables. Even in societies with high stratification, cultural norms and religion can mitigate these things. But in the good ole USA we've made an industry out of social death, and we're shocked at the violence among those so killed.

    If it's melanin, then we should see more violence from very tan "white" people, right?
     
    #47     Oct 11, 2010
  8. You mean like hispanics? The architects of those horrific latin american communities you were talking about? Gini coefficients have zero statistically significant association.

     
    #48     Oct 11, 2010
  9. Nope. As you freaked out about before, the single best indicator of violent crime is gender -- black and white women aren't committing violent crime.

    Although that doesn't fit your racist narrative.
     
    #49     Oct 12, 2010
  10. Let's face it, everyone who looks at the data with an open mind will see that there are clear racial & gender differences in many areas. Many people are simply in denial about this fact.

    As a society, we have been strongly conditioned to deny racial & gender differences. Some people cling to their original conditioning far more tenaciously than others. There was a good intention behind this brainwashing I believe. If you deny racial/gender differences, you help negate racism/sexism. This conditioning is a tool used to control simple minds which might otherwise be inclined to hate. Unfortunately, like most lies, the myth of race/gender equality has unintended bad consequences.

    All you can really do as an individual is not get caught up in the propaganda. Then you don't have to feel guilty about escaping all of the government/society's constraints on what you "must" do in relation to race/gender. Those who are easily brainwashed will continue to be victimized, but that is always their unfortunate lot.
     
    #50     Oct 12, 2010