Quitting day job to collect weekly premiums - realistic?

Discussion in 'Options' started by mdwreader, Dec 25, 2016.

  1. Stymie

    Stymie

     
    #121     Feb 19, 2017
  2. ironchef

    ironchef

    Stymie,

    Any comments?
     
    #122     Feb 22, 2017
  3. Llxa

    Llxa

    What if the stock starts tanking as soon as you owned it and tanked so much that there are no calls that you can write that will allow you to sell the stock at a profit in case if it gets called away and in the mean time you are stuck with a tanking stock?

    Yes living off collecting premiums can be done but you have to be very very careful with the strategy. It's almost like a high-wire act.
     
    #123     Feb 22, 2017
  4. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    aka, it can not be done. :)
     
    #124     Feb 23, 2017
  5. Llxa

    Llxa

    Yes, it CAN be done but 1) you need LOTS LOTS of money like at least $200K since the guy says he's starting with $800K working capital so that requirement is satisfied and 2) you just have to consider ALL scenarios of what can happen to the underlying and its consequences on your investment capital and tailor your options strategies accordingly and that's the high-wire act that I was talking about.
     
    #125     Feb 23, 2017
  6. Sig

    Sig

    $200K, seriously? What do you plan to live at the poverty level or reliably return 50-75% returns year after year?
     
    #126     Feb 23, 2017
  7. That's such a linear, close-minded perspective;
    Trading the market...is neither necessarily a constant Success or Failure -- one or the other.

    It's kind of a constant dance, or art -- or skill ;)o_O
    If you're searching for a sure/safe thing...then the marketplace is definitely not your playground,

    That's the beauty of the market ...it's filled with emotion and mystery, atleast in the shorter run time frame, it is.
    Much more complex then any painting.
     
    #127     Feb 23, 2017
  8. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Let's bring out the big guns, the numbers. The previous poster quoted a 800K account size. Well, with such an account a 10% return can give you a decent living. Now most traders don't have a close to million account size, thus achieving the same relative dollar value they have to have a 30-50-whatever% return.

    Obviously making 10% is way easier than making 50%...
     
    #128     Feb 23, 2017
  9. Sig

    Sig

    I guess a decent living is relative, most people who've made $800K and are still well short of regular retirement aren't the the kind of people who consider $80K a year a decent living. And 10% is 5 times the risk free rate. You need to take on 5x the risk to make that or assume that there is systemic, long term mispricing of options. There's a pretty massive amount of hubris in that assumption.
     
    #129     Feb 23, 2017
  10. Llxa

    Llxa

    Maybe for you guys in the states, an income level below $100K a year is below the poverty line now?? LOL In Canada, you are gonna have a pretty comfortable life if you make $50K a year SINGLE, no kids. With 2 kids, $70K to $80K a year should do it. You can't make that much money a year on a $200K working capital doing weeklies??

    How much money are you all pulling in doing weeklies? LOL
     
    #130     Feb 23, 2017