Quitting day job to collect weekly premiums - realistic?

Discussion in 'Options' started by mdwreader, Dec 25, 2016.

  1. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thank you for your encouragement. Intuition can only go so far. For example by trial and error I learned that if a short call went against me, it was better to exit instead of hoping for a turn around (or rolling) but it was gut feel instead of a quantitative calculation that said I should close it out and I don't have any quantitative data to prove it.

    Options are really complex instruments making adjustments very difficult to quantify and so it is hard for me to formalize. Are there classes I can take? Coursera classes?

    Best wishes.
     
    #111     Feb 5, 2017

  2. index or diversify in many many stocks, then more work to keep up with
     
    #112     Feb 6, 2017
  3. Sig

    Sig

    ironchef,
    Based on your posts I think you'd really enjoy a finance 101/202 course. They offer MOOCs for free at many great schools (this one is taught by Robert Schiller, for example https://www.coursera.org/learn/financial-markets). Like you I had backed into the concepts from my math/engineering background, but seeing it all laid out and clarified in a finance course was eye opening to say the least. It was one of the most interesting classes I took, and I highly recommend it for someone like you who is interested and already has an intuitive feel for it. Because of that you'll get far more out of it than a typical MBA student.
     
    #113     Feb 6, 2017
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  4. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thanks. I need to look into that as I am a fan of Prof Schiller. Finance is maddeningly vague and uncertain for an old, over the hill, ex-engineer.:(

    Best wishes.
     
    #114     Feb 6, 2017
  5. Sig

    Sig

    I'm one of those also and I love it. I think you'll actually like the stuff in finance classes a lot more than you may think, in fact if I have any gripes it's that the finance class paints everything as too deterministic (those of us trained as engineers like that!), and there's actually more uncertainty in reality than they let on in the classes. I.E. they tell you that we know the distribution of returns isn't normal, but then proceed to use a normal distribution anyway for simplicity and you forget the initial disclaimer. You then realize you have to take a class specifically on finance distributions to find out what the best one to use is in a given situation.
    Good luck and have fun!
     
    #115     Feb 6, 2017
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  6. Llxa

    Llxa

    If you can make enough premiums to live off it, yeah sure, WHY not?
     
    #116     Feb 11, 2017
  7. Butterball

    Butterball

    #1 losing trader mistake: consider premium from selling calls or puts as "income"
     
    #117     Feb 11, 2017
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  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Yeah. It's like considering the cash you receive from shorting a stock as a salary
     
    #118     Feb 11, 2017
  9. Stymie

    Stymie

    NLNK - Stock at 15 and 15 Straddle at 10 dollars for Jan 2018. 335 days so about 70% return on capital. You own more stock at 5 dollars if drifts down. Your cap is 25 dollars.

    BAC - stock at 25 and 25 Straddle at $5 for Jan 18. 20 % return. Own more stock at 20 or cap at 30.

    It's boring and generates little commission but your sailing skills improve. ⛵️
     
    #119     Feb 18, 2017
  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    What if I buy BAC Jan 18 calls strike $30 for $0.69 per share instead? I can use the cash secured fund to buy 30 yr treasury and the interest will be $0.755 per share equivalent for a net credit of $0.0065 per share. So, net credit and unlimited upside? The risk? Bond devalues due to interest rate going up, but in such case, BAC income will go up and stock price will go up with it, so the calls will be profitable.

    What am I missing?

    Regards,
     
    #120     Feb 18, 2017