My opinion, to close. I like 2 points. Trading that way, S&R etc. That being said, I prefer the NQ because of the volitility. Will move 5 points often quicker than the ES will do 2. (Same money). and I give the NQ 5-7 points of room for stop. It is possible to get more than one point. If you are looking for $50 on 1-4 trades, you better have good commissions! One last point for the zero sum gamers - actually it is a minus sum game; NFA, clearing firms and brokers take right off the top! So what goes in does not come out. Easy to show. Two trades 1st +1; 2nd -1: net gain 0 account -20!