Oh.. and one last point. You say that you would never make a live call here at ET and you say it with such gusto. I have to wonder... why the emotion behind such a bold statement? Seriously... if someone calls you on it.. who gives a fuck? If you say I went long at 4500, stop is 3 points, target 30 points... and you're right, but someone doesn't believe you... why the fuck would you care? Why would you even waste time replying to them? You make it seem like if you post a live call, someone takes something away from you, as if you're a young girl holding onto her virginity so tightly that you cannot afford to give it away to just anybody. For being such expert traders and so in control of yourself, you guys certainly go crazy on the message forums. Here is a chart from June 11... I made a whole $32... does it matter? If someone says its fake, I don't give a shit, I just won't reply. If someone learns from this chart, great. I'm not going to go chasing after guys who I consider a troll or who are not being helpful to me. Why the experts on here get so easily annoyed and have to be right I don't know. Perhaps with your trading you're in a different frame of mind, so when you turn to the message forums, you've got too much buildup of emotion and have to release. You just have to be right with someone, and since you know you can't have this attitude when trading, its gotta come through in your message posts.
Unfortunately you can't do anything about trolls ! "Trolls being the ones that provoke and bait other posters for their own amusement" They call it "free speech" Luckily there are only a few, but I if they become a majority this site would go down in days. I guess we are working from probabilities again.
Thanks. I've had quite a bit of a problem lately with stops being run almost. I literally get taken out on the lowest or highest tick. I should use a wider stop, but get out myself manually before its hit if I'm not feeling the price action, but so far, I'm still crawling. About taking a chill pill, I'm not even really upset. I just don't like how the experts are trying to control so many things and yet aren't being all that helpful to begin with in many cases. Their never ending blaming of trolls and saying how this is such a bad place is no better than whatever negative influence the trolls actually bring.
You're still misinformed about ET history regardless if you care or not. Facts... Troll problem here at ET existed before B1S2 became an issue I announced I wouldn't start a thread here at ET before B1S2 became an issue Chit Chat and Politics & Religion were created to help ease the trolls pollution in other threads before B1S2 became an issue Chat room had an enormous troll problems before B1S2 became an issue You're labeling folks experts...the traders you're labeling do not call themselves experts Other places have a troll problem too...as I've been very specific about such in this thread along with stating such via my moderation of those places, its a problem everywhere (how could you have possibly missed that point...you doing that intentionally ?) Many of ET best members in the past journals that use to post live trades here (two of which you've acknowledge in another thread)...they post elsewhere Folks are posting videos on Youtube of their trading...not here anymore unless I've missed something since January. Everyday I view a video posted by someone on Youtube...a few of which use to be ET members. It's there but you're too blind to look. Who cares why they post videos of live trading when they have free time and not trading. Does it hurt your feelings enough for you to label folks "experts". Therefore, when I start talking about psychology and you want to label me an "expert"...do not. Thank you in advance for not doing such. Review this thread carefully and determine who was the first one to mention B1S2...it was Dbphoenix. If you knew their history like me...the trolling begin via a different issue and it had nothing to do with live trades or scribbles or any trade method My point as a moderator elsewhere and member of social media (twitter, facebook, stocktwits and others)...trolling is a problem everywhere. Its a growing problem on social media as stated multiple times. I've never suggested ET has the only problem and that its not a problem anywhere else. In contrast, I've suggested one issue only and its personal as stated...I would never post a live trade here while others have no problems doing such here and not elsewhere. Simply, stop the fantasy that ET is the only place to post a live trade...seriously...get over it. In contrast, ET is my favorite place to read psychology discussions...something the other places lack. Therefore, as stated multiple times...when I start threads on psychology...it will be here but only IF I can prevent trolls from participating in my threads for the sole purpose of harassing another ET member via topics that has absolutely nothing to do with psychology. Once again, having the ability to limit the trolling has been something I've waited for a very long time because the island for Chit Chat and Politics & Religion and elimination of Chat wasn't enough. You wouldn't know that because you don't know the history of trolling at ET because you're still stuck on someone called B1S2. I think you're confused or time for bed. I don't make live calls here and have never had an issue with anyone about such towards me. Therefore, there's never been any discussion by someone with me about making live calls here. In contrast, former ET members that use to post live calls here...obviously have an issue with ET considering they now do it elsewhere. I just happen to agree with them based upon ET history with trolling, personal attacks, harassment and other issues. Who knows, if things go well with Baron's new implementation...maybe a few of them will return. Wouldn't you guys want the old ES Journal gang back ? Think about that carefully...seriously. Simply, go talk to them about your concerns...not me.
As much as I respect you for your vast knowledge and posting history, I still do not see how much this affects what is happening right now. The fact is that currently, both Db and 40D are mostly referencing the behavior of B1S2 and he is their number one troll, but at the same time, Db keeps arguing with people over and over again. He may say he has B1S2 on ignore, but he continues to reference him and hence keeps feeding him, keeps bringing attention to the cause, keeps complaining about the trolling, etc. Doesn't Mark Douglas talk about taking energy away from the bad energy/thoughts and putting it into the correct mindset and slowly over time the positive shift will naturally happen? Instead of these guys focusing on what can't be done, they should just focus on doing what it is they want to do, post some fucking charts, talk about price action, and skip over the posts of trolls. Don't engage them, don't call any attention to them, don't bitch and whine about how you cannot post at ET anymore because the trolls have taken over. I mean seriously... all the people bitching and whining about trolls is no better than how those same guys accused me of supposedly bitching and whining about how nobody was giving me all the answers on a silver platter. I expect more from traders who are calm, cool, collected, confident, unbiased and agile during the trading session. At least now I understand why you continue to hang out here and post and I very much look forward to your psychology thread.
If you have an issue with what Db and 40D are doing or not doing...send them a private message. Don't aim your post towards me. You know for fact I'm just going to tell you to get over them and move on as I've always have. Get over them, move on because your stuck in the mud. Trolling issue I want to fix is the reason why I left the Psychology threads...it has nothing to do with Db, 40D or B1S2. The biggest trolling concern I have with involve folks names I won't mentioned. I welcome the new implementation by Baron so that I can return to the psychology threads...its an aspect of my own personal trading I grapple with. An area I have a very strong interest in. Let the sharing begin. P.S. As a reminder, this is Baron's forum. Trolling hurts his ability to attract new sponsors and/or keep existing sponsors...it impacts his wallet. That's why he has an interest in this issue...as he did when he got rid of chat and created Chit Chat and Politics & Religion. Therefore, don't be naive and think this is about a few individuals.
I have no desire to convince them of anything. I'm simply presenting my case which differs from their views, and they've spent quite a bit of time bitching about trolls so they've had more than enough opportunity to present their views, and I'm simply presenting mine. In reference to you, I simply clump you into the group by way of association! Many have shared their views about how the trolling here is very much also initiated by Db, and i960 and justtrading have both presented their case rather well which I fully agree with. You seem so put off by the trolls like Db and 40D are, and this I just don't understand when to me, the best reaction is simply to not have a reaction at all. So because you agree with their view, and my view differs, its been nice to have a discuss about it with you. So in a way, aiming my post towards you makes perfect sense when you do in fact share their viewpoint as well, so we can completely take them out of it, and just argue about the effect of trolls on this board. But this has of course gotten us nowhere, and the fix should be in place soon which you, Db and 40D seem to fully support, so now we can get on with talking about trading.
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imo, "Consistently profitable" is merely a commercial term. Also imo, showing charts with more annotations provides mainly one single value - more confusions. Particularly if we want to find Consistence from Them! lol