You guys are comparing Christianity with Islamic Facisits now? Wow...... Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess. God Bless everyone in 2009.
Too bad you don't have any knowledge to go with it. Does that mean you're right? I mean if that's the case we also have freedom of speech and that's always a positive too. right? Just look at the KKK. ........oh I guess not.
we do have the knowlege. we now have the technology to test for parts for billion in water, we can look at atoms. we can look far into the heavens and look at whats out there. we can inspect every claimed miracle and we find nothing. in over 2000 years of this testing there has never been a shred of evidence found that points to any god. the best believers can do is say"you cant prove there is no god". at what point do we just accept reality and admit there is nothing out there? We have heard talk enough. We have listened to all the drowsy, idealess, vapid sermons that we wish to hear. We have read your Bible and the works of your best minds. We have heard your prayers, your solemn groans and your reverential amens. All these amount to less than nothing. We want one fact. We beg at the doors of your churches for just one little fact. We pass our hats along your pews and under your pulpits and implore you for just one fact. We know all about your mouldy wonders and your stale miracles. We want a this year's fact. We ask only one. Give us one fact for charity. Your miracles are too ancient. The witnesses have been dead for nearly two thousand years. -- Robert Green Ingersoll,
So Vhehn, You obviously do not believe God exists, does that also include, demons,the devil and such? Any form of afterlife, or are we just worm dirt when we die.
no those are just concepts of a primitive mind. any serious research on the concept of satan can track its conception over the centuries. what happens when we die? what happens to any animal when they die?
be very,very,very,very leery of anyone who claims your mind is primitive as compared to his own superior mind what the hell drives these people? ego, narcissism? yes
I'm neither a physicist or a theologian. But just out of curiosity, and solely for the sake of discussion, (laymen's terms please) what do you science oriented guys think about the article below? "Applying the principle of general relativity to our cosmos reveals that it is not static. Edwin Hubble (1889-1953) demonstrated in 1928 that the Universe is expanding, showing beyond reasonable doubt that the Universe sprang into being a finite time ago. The most common contemporary interpretation of this expansion is that this began to exist from the moment of the Big Bang some 13.7 billion years ago. However this is not the only plausible cosmological model which exists in academia, and many creation physicists such as Russell Humphreys and John Hartnett have devised models operating with a biblical framework, which -- to date -- have withstood the test of criticism from the most vehement of opponents. Theory of Relativity â A Testament to Creation Using the observed cosmic expansion conjunctively with the general theory of relativity, we can infer from the data that the further back into time one looks, the universe ought to diminish in size accordingly. However, this cannot be extrapolated indefinitely. The universeâs expansion helps us to appreciate the direction in which time flows. This is referred to as the Cosmological arrow of time, and implies that the future is -- by definition -- the direction towards which the universe increases in size. The expansion of the universe also gives rise to the second law of thermodynamics, which states that the overall entropy (or disorder) in the Universe can only increase with time because the amount of energy available for work deteriorates with time. If the universe was eternal, therefore, the amount of usable energy available for work would have already been exhausted. Hence it follows that at one point the entropy value was at absolute 0 (most ordered state at the moment of creation) and the entropy has been increasing ever since -- that is, the universe at one point was fully âwound upâ and has been winding down ever since. This has profound theological implications, for it shows that time itself is necessarily finite. If the universe were eternal, the thermal energy in the universe would have been evenly distributed throughout the cosmos, leaving each region of the cosmos at uniform temperature (at very close to absolute 0), rendering no further work possible. The General Theory of Relativity demonstrates that time is linked, or related, to matter and space, and thus the dimensions of time, space, and matter constitute what we would call a continuum. They must come into being at precisely the same instant. Time itself cannot exist in the absence of matter and space. From this, we can infer that the uncaused first cause must exist outside of the four dimensions of space and time, and possess eternal, personal, and intelligent qualities in order to possess the capabilities of intentionally space, matter -- and indeed even time itself -- into being. Moreover, the very physical nature of time and space also suggest a Creator, for infinity and eternity must necessarily exist from a logical perspective. The existence of time implies eternity (as time has a beginning and an end), and the existence of space implies infinity. The very concepts of infinity and eternity infer a Creator because they find their very state of being in God, who transcends both and simply is."