Question for the Athiests

Perhaps there aren't many straight questions. I'll count these as straight questions and give a straight answer. I don't expect the answer to hold up in any lower court of judgement...basically any court on the face of the earth. "To thine own Self be true" so-to-speak. I am sharing, not convincing. As I give, I recieve. So who or what am I doing this for?

There are many voices here who express confusion. I am merely converting their use of cyber space for clarification for my edification...and their's if they want. But we are one, so again, who is this for?

I am the student in the front row. YOu are expecting me to articulate clearly the most closely held secrets in the universe, when fact is, the universe exists to utterly confuse the issue...turn everything upside down...and make sanity look like foolishness. To you maybe my answers look wicked. You are percieving through biased mental filters. Your snap judgments about my answers will merely trap you where you are...not me.

That said, I am attempting to honor any genuine questions about what I am pointing to using modes of communication [words] specifically designed to block the natural communion of the Kingdom of God [Reality]. I am honoring all actual questions with the straightest answer available to my level of understanding. As I understand more, the answer may or may not be straighter for you, because what I am proposing is *unbelievable* when first heard.

My monologues are scary because they question your very existence as a *person* and inform you that your reality is equal to a power that can make "the universe" in the blink of an eye for a toy.

All the "evidence" is on your side. I am a lone voice in the desert. I am saying that your "evidence" is presented by a *false witness*. I'm not suprised you will try to use perception against me because that is what is was made for!

Your argument does not follow. All "things" are held in perception, yes. Quantum physics suggests that observation determines the behavoir of light, whether it will manifest in waves or particles. I am saying that "the universe" is some "thing" that is *observed*. It is not observed because it is there. It it there because it is observed, wished for...wanted. It is like an all-seeing eye which sees [percieves] through millions of eyeballs, which don't really see anything at all. They, in turn, see what they want to see.

Mental filters "see" what they want to see, even if it's not there. Eyeballs suggest that the body does something. They don't. It doesn't. Man's experience, as Einstein suggested, is "an optical delusion of consciousness". I call it "magic", having defined what magic is and does so that it can be undone. Other definitions of magic simply cast a spell over your mind and keep you trapped as a *tool* of an all-seeing eye, so-to-speak.

Your arms are "evidence" of an ancient faith which operates by a "law" I will call the "law of perception". Perception is not a law of GoD. It is a made up law, adapted from God's law, which allows you to see what you want and rejoice in it. So perception opens the door to fantasy and magic...ie. "so mote it be"..."let there be light"...etc. You "hoped" for arms, and now you see them and rejoice, even though they are really just weapons against the truth. What an ancient faith made, you *maintain* by your current faith in them....or rather, by your current faith in what they stand for: faith against the truth of oneness [Faith in separation]. You have faith in them because you still *want* them [faith follows desire] because you still want separation. So you still *see* them.

You are confusing "faithfully known" with true knowledge. Knowledge is total. You either know everything, or you know nothing...and have faith instead. You don't know everything about how your arms appear to appear. So you don't know. Therefore, it does not follow that truth and faith appear together in perception. In fact, perception is for blocking out truth of knowlege and defending against it...until perception is "converted" to serve your best interests.

If you think you are a "person" you are already mentally ill. You *were* the totality of everything, and now you think you are a person and a bird thinks it is a bird...ect. As a rule of thumb, if you see "people" or "birds" *out there*, you have withdrawn into insanity within your own mind which encompasses the totality of everything real, as well as everything unreal.
True salvation is specifically for this kind of insanity. A mentally ill person can imagine themselve flying like a bird, even though it is against the nature of humanhood. Likewise, "the universe" of time, space and form is something imagined in a sick mind in need of healing. This is your mind on "drugs"...ie. "judgement".

Judgement states that "anything can be true as long as you perceive it to be true". Translation: "What you can concieve and believe you can achieve". This leads to mental illness because it leads away from reality...which is unchangeably true. Would you not agree that if you walked away from reality you would be "going insane"? The parable of the prodigal Son is just such a story...the wandering away from reality...in your own mind! "The universe" is a foreign, "far off land", to which you go and make your new home, calling it "home". It is not home. It is "hell". In hell there are: "narcissist's, pathological liars and people suffering from psychosis".

The way out of hell is to reverse the processes that led in. So, salvation is really about ending psychological conflict on a cosmic scale.

"The universe" is about delusions of grandiosity.
The "Kingdom of God" is about the truth of grandeur.

Both are in your mind..."within". One is the real You, the other is a self-concept. End the conflict by choosing which you truly desire. You "cannot serve two masters"...means, you cannot serve truth and illusion [perception] at the same time.

Christ!

 

Lack of faith in a god does not equal a faith in itself, you troll.

 

Everything you say can be summed up in "I think therefore I am."

All you know is that you think and that other people think. The only things you truly know have come from nothing supreme.

YOUR ENTIRE BELIEF AND PHILOSOPHICAL SYSTEM HAS BEEN MANIPULATED BY OTHER PEOPLES WORDS, STATEMENTS AND THOUGHTS. NO GOD HAS EVER ONCE MANIPULATED YOUR THOUGHTS WHETHER YOU THINK HE HAS OR NOT.

Everything you say about ancient laws, black magic and the universe is absolute speculation. You don't know. Admit it, you don't know! You just believe. Quit acting like you through "amazing philosophical maneuvers" know there is a god and know there is a supreme bring. I went to a Catholic School for 12 years and not one religious teacher acted so cocky and boastful about knowing everything there is to know about god and the universe. They merely agreed God was not a fact but a faith. That is there all to say about the issue. Quit writing novels of bull shit.

Religion is a faith. There is no proof it is real but people have a faith that it is real. Faith is not real.

You truly act like you know everything. The intellect of a person is not based on what they know, it is based on what they don't know. You being an expert on everything sends a huge red flag in the air when it comes to even taking a second look at what you have to write on this forum.

I have never seen your gross amount of BS on these forums before. Don't even try to have a guilt show about yourself trying to find the truth.

 

Lacking a known, atheists willingly have faith in non God...

That is belief, and its practice is no different than any other religion.

In Pope atheist Dawkins' own words:

Even Dawkins admits: ‘I realise this is very weak. . . But I still think it’s a separate issue from beliefs in cosmic truths.’ [21]

There is no shortage of proposed "cosmic truths" by atheists, and mountains of beliefs underneath these proposed truths...

Holding a belief to be true is the cornerstone of both theism and atheism...

 

I'm saying that "before Abraham"...before the deceptive foundations of "the universe", I am the mind-spirit that is known as The Kingdom of God...The Son of God...Christ...Reality. I'm saying this was a "gift" given to "me" by *Our Father*. I say *Our Father* because it is the same inheritance given to you. It cannot be taken away. This is a statement of faith. I don't really give a newts eyeball or wing of bat what other voices say about that.

I do not assume other voices are really thinking. I don't know that. Brains appear to be walking around. I do not assume the brains are thinking. I do presume they are hardware like an internet router. Do internet routers think? I do presume a router's real mind is choosing to think with:

A. It's own mind which I call "Holy Spirit", "Christ", "Son of God", "Reality".
B. A machine I call "consciousness", "s.a.t.a.n.", or "ego" [think: extra gOd].

The human experience, and all of its apparent thought, is concieved by B.
I will call this the "immasculate conception".

(A.) lends (B.) the power of belief and sides with it for f.u.n. [unconscious fantasy], becoming "one" with it, like some kind of cyborg, half real/half machine type of construction. Salvation is for empowering the [unlimited] real half [mind] to cast off its limited mechanical counterpart and be free. The gospel, properly understood, is for facilitating true choice through correct analysis of the problem, and right application of freedom restoring practices.

Bodies are more like bots, which "know not what they do" and are better described as "thinking membranes of star intelligences" since they route thought which eminates from chi fields cast off by solar tides, which are influenced by planetary movement, all of which is influenced by movement beyond...all connecting up to (B.) ... just for the hell of it. (B.) covers it's tracks well that it may not be discovered as the puppet master. So what "people" do should be forgiven. "We wrestle not with flesh and bones, but with principalities and powers"...ect.

Bots are free to the extent that they are invested with the power to choose which mind they want to think with. All other choices are not choices. Rather, they are multiple-choice scripts running through consciousness. Whatever scripts are chosen, their scenes and spectacles are produced by a machine-gone-wild.

"If you keep thinking the way you always thought, you'll keep getting what you always got." Seems apropo here.

Which belief system are you talking about? There's a belief system that leads to toyful delusion and another that leads to a joyful conclusion. The one leading into a labyrinth is manipulated by a machine-mind that I take responsibility for making...just for the hell of it. It allows "me" to become my own maker, instead of *Our Father*, that I may "be" whatever self-concept I want to be...for the hell of it.

The machine is not GoD or even "a god"...but it is a kind of idol [toy] that is made as a gOd instead of GoD. Normally, "I am" thinking with GoD as one. In the ungodly relationship, "I" am thinking with gOd as one. Turns out gOd is a tyrant, so the relationship is more like master and slave [think: router]. I do not blame this gOd. Neither do I really blame myself. I *take responsibility*. This is an initial step toward liberation. There is nothing beyond or greater than the scope of my own mind in terms of infinite power...not even GoD *Our Father*...which is "within" "me", just as I am within GoD.

This is your truth as well. Why do you put up such a front of resistance to the very idea? Is it not good news?

I already told you knowledge is total. And if it is not total it is not at all. I have faith that my knowledge is total. Didn't I tell you as much in my last post? "We are justified by faith" is not accurate and has lost its meaning. The correct pronunciation is: *Our faith in truth will be justified*. Faith in total knowledge evokes its own "evidence". So, "blessed are those who have not seen but believed, for they shall see". This means perception will shift to accomadate true desire, evoking understanding and...*results*. If you want results before faith, you put the cart before the horse. Desire is like a white stallion heading home at GoDspeeD.

I went to Catholic School for 6 years, so I know more than you.
"Amazing philosphical maneuvers"? As far as I can tell, I've worked hard to learn what I have faith in. If you make something a priority, amazing insights can come from wherever they come from, justifying one's priorities.

"The universe" is a faith. There is no proof that it is real but people have faith that it is real. "The universe" is not real. Like I told stu, a scientist will find evidence that the universe is not real. A mad scientist won't. "The universe" is a mind driven mad by the concept of guilt. Neither guilt, nor faith, nor people, nor perception, nor s.a.t.a.n. are real. Like I said, it's all magic...sourcing from a mind with power beyond a bots imagination. It cannot be grasped. It can only be *accepted*. It's ok to base acceptance on reason. Be reasonable.

I have faith that I know everything. The intellect of the machine-mind I call "s.a.t.a.n" is not based on what it knows. It does not know everything so it knows nothing. Rather, it percieves, judges, analyzes, rationalizes, grades, sorts, divides and separates. The bots it produces are made in its image. Their intellect is based on what they don't know. But boasting of knowing nothing is not exactly humility. Humility is to accept that *Our Father* gave us total knowledge. If that's true, boasting of knowing nothing is really just a masked version of arrogance.

I don't have time to be arrogant by acting stupid. I don't need to "sell" anyone anything because I don't need anyone's permission to think freely. If I slowed down to every skeptic's speed, I'd be dead a thousand times before I figured out how to really LIVE. True humility accepts the perfection *Our Father* gave us as it is, without molesting it with additional, mad self-concepts. So I don't need to "act" stupid. It's enough that I am aware that there is an ancient belief system that affects my thinking that is on schedule to be "overcome". I don't need it's permission to think with my own mind either. To the extent that I am aware of it, and how it thinks generally, I can make progress away from stupidity.

Total knowledge is restored by admitting what doesn't know...AND DESIRING TO HAVE EVERYTHING RESTORED. Just saying you don't know is not helpful at all. That is a statement of faith. State it enough times and your faith will be justified.

What is BS? Guilt is BS. So I won't push it on myself or anyone else. If you feel guilty, let me know and I will absolve you. I have found the truth. It is now only a matter of time before I accept it. And accepting it, it's only a matter of time before my faith justifies all the BS I went through to get this far.

Christ!

 

Amen.

 

Can you hate something because it is an affront to your integrity? Can you have no opinion , are you allowed to have no opinion , after being told a tale is true by others on pain of threat and suffering if you think otherwise or don't believe them? Are you obliged to have no opinion because there is no real rhyme or reason to the tale just absurdity heaped upon absurdity? Can you hate something because of that?
The same tale forced into society at large. Shoved down the throats of children. The same tale. The same threat percolated through law, through every fabric of society impeding understanding. You watch people blindly mimicking others following the tale , led by the nose through ridiculous rituals which are really, when it comes down to it, based upon nothing more than crude and offensive ideas, thoughts and actions which would anywhere else other than a Church be considered at least an offence to human dignity . Where honesty truth and goodness are employed to act as a front cover behind which only a call to submissive compliance on threat of punishment is the basis for holding belief. Can you hate something like that?

Why then, when you have the innate ability to be curious, to question, to check out for yourself, to enquire, observe and test, would you want to believe against all that, or feel impelled to accept a reason in the form only of a tale? Or feel compelled to accept anything or anyone , who offers only fatuous and preposterous religious reasoning dressed up in hardly anything like a plausible explanation?

Everyone started out with a clean slate. Totally no opinions and no beliefs . I think atheists are instinctively a tad more careful about what gets written on the slate , or what deserves to stay on it.

 

That vacuous remark is so patently disingenuous that it borders on the absurd. You're just here for the attention, aren't you?