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Why don't you help us get it by coming into the ET chat room and giving us entries and exits? Is that too hard? You're posting long, rambling posts so you obviously have the time. Just set a date, say this week and we'll come over to the chat room and follow along. No pestering, no childish insults, etc. Just you providing entries and exits. That's all. What do you say Jack?
Babak, Didn't you say you had made your last post to this thread a while ago? Your posts are sounding more and more desperate as well. Here's an offer for you: I have audio files and saved text messages of the Paltalk sessions from a couple of years ago. If you can track down intraday data from that period, you might be able to follow along and learn something. Jack usually came on during the open and more rarely in the afternoon and there were a few of us posting trades real-time in text message. If you want them, here's what you must do to accept my offer: 1. Figure out a way for me to get them to you. The files are very large and I will not use e-mail to send them. 2. Leave this thread and do not post in any future thread where others are learning from Jack either under your current ID or any other ID. 3. Understand and accept that there is no representation by me that the files you receive will help you to trade. In fact, it is my belief that you are likely beyond help. Let me know in this thread if you accept. This offer expires on Friday, September 9, 2005, 4:15 PM EDT.
icarus, why go through all that trouble when Jack can just pop in the ET chat and give us entries and exits?
I can't speak for Jack but frankly I wouldn't give you the time of day if I were in his shoes. Perhaps I have a soft spot for struggling traders. Who knows? I haven't gone deeply into my reasons. It's not that much trouble on my end in any case. Just a little time which I'm willing to spend to help this thread along a bit. I have a feeling you're not much interested in learning. But I've made my offer and it's up to you.
Yeah, I'm so not interested in learning that I'm requesting a live, play by play, specific entries/exits, to see Jack's system as it is implemented. Yeah...that makes sense.
All I see you doing on here is distracting others and making demands. If you were really interested in learning, you would shut up and follow along in this thread and read as much as you can of the other material that's out there to amplify what's being done here. My experience is that people who make demands aren't interested in learning. They are incapable of learning. Just my take, of course.
icarus, the net is full of Jack's words. Many have tried to do what you suggest...read and make sense of them. That way lies madness...I've seen many who have had to undergo a lobotomy after committing years and years to try to understand his drivel. That's why I'm taking a different approach. And it is refreshingly simple. It goes like this: If Jack is a great trader, then he will be able to trade in real time and give entries and exits. If he does this, it will prove to me (and everyone else) that he is more than just filled with hot air. Once he does this, I will devote my time (the most valuable resource I or anyone else has) to learn his undecipherable language and maze like logic. You follow? Elegant logic isn't it? Wonder how many psychiatric wards would be empty had other traders stumbled upon it.
There's no use continuing this. You help no one including yourself with your view of things. Why not just say this is not for you and move on? It seems simple to me. Of course, you cannot do that. You believe you have a claim to something from others that you really do not. You are in a tough place, my friend. Good luck.
Lets look at this logically and consider what benefits or harm would accrue if Jack were to do an online chat as I suggest. ok? Benefits: 1] Showcase his system and prove it works in real time 2] Leave a great information source for others (ET chats can be archived: http://www.elitetrader.com/ch/) 3] Allow his students to learn from him in real time and perhaps learn something new 4] Make all his detractors eat heapin' helpings of crow 5] Have fun and make some money! Harm: .