'Quant' hedge funds headed for worst month since Aug 2007

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Dogfish, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. mutluit

    mutluit

    That's it! :D
     
    #31     Nov 3, 2012
  2. the vast majority of hedge funds are total frauds in that they cannot deliver 'alpha' on a consistent basis.

    its a great scheme though..

    raise money, play with it, get lucky, get huge bonus and fee, they can never take that away from you, what happens after that doesnt matter. risk to manager? zero.

    the end.
     
    #32     Nov 3, 2012
  3. mutluit

    mutluit

    #33     Nov 3, 2012
  4. Ash1972

    Ash1972

    Exactly, the real art of the hedge fund is sales. The portfolio (mis)management is a mere sideline.
     
    #34     Nov 4, 2012
  5. yep, and in every prospectus you'll find disclaimers that state in more eloquent terms, "we are not sure if you'll do well, we actually have no idea" lol. but do people care? nope. so the show goes on. why not?

    yes, there are the 1%ers that actually do deliever year after year after year (rentec) but most are closed to new investors.


    this is taken from a goldman sachs prospectus for one of their quant funds..

    Management Risk. A strategy used by the Investment Adviser may fail to produce the
    intended results.
    The Investment Adviser attempts to execute a complex strategy for
    the Fund using a proprietary quantitative model. Investments selected using this model
    may perform differently than expected as a result of the Component Market Factors
    used in the models, the weight placed on each Component Market Factor, changes from
    the Component Market Factors’ historical trends, and technical issues in the construction
    and implementation of the models (including, for example, data problems and/or
    software issues). There is no guarantee that the Investment Adviser’s use of the
    quantitative model will result in effective investment decisions
    for the Fund. Additionally,
    commonality of holdings across quantitative money managers may amplify losses
     
    #35     Nov 4, 2012
  6. Bob111

    Bob111

    +1
     
    #36     Nov 5, 2012