Quadriga Superfund - Managed Futures

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by USAtrader, Mar 22, 2004.

  1. Aaron

    Aaron

    The Superfund is a registered fund with the SEC and not restricted by the Regulation D, Private Placement, rules against advertising.

    They also aren't limited to any specific number of investors as some hedge funds are, so they can accept lots of small investors with a low minimum.

    Aaron Schindler
    Schindler Trading
     
    #661     Feb 22, 2007
  2. I don't care about fees, that's right. Bottom line is what counts. I am not sure which of their products (which are just different leverage %s on the same basic portfolio) you are referring to with 20%, but the chart I am looking at looks like this:

    Returned avg. 5.04% annually over the last 3 years. Not sure what percentile that puts you in, but I call that horrible
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    #662     Feb 22, 2007
  3. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    That fund is not sold in the US. I was referring to the US fund.

    Here are the returns for the last 4 years.

    2003 28%
    2004 17%
    2005 (12%)
    2006 20%

    I would not call that horrible. Look, if you are going to talk about hedge funds or managed futures you have to make comparisons. You can just say this fund sucks or that fund sucks. Sucks compared to what?

    When you compare Quadriga to any managed futures fund or hedge fund you have to make an apples to apples comparison. If you take a good look at the trend following funds or even managed futures space as a whole and compare returns and sharpe ratios, Quadriga is in the top 5%. Even over the last 4 years.

    Do you understand what I am saying? As traders we have to be careful when you make comparisons that you are comparing similar things. Now, if you were to say Quadriga's returns are horrible over the last 3 to 4 years compared to John Henry or some other trend following fund, then we can talk. But blanket statements usually give us no foundation to build any kind of dialogue.
     
    #663     Feb 22, 2007
  4. Sorry: Sucks compared to Winton, Tulip Trend or MAN AHL.
     
    #664     Feb 22, 2007
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Great, so Quadriga is in the top 5%, like I said. If those funds are so terrific then 95% of the funds out there must be doing worse then those three as well correct?
     
    #665     Feb 22, 2007
  6. virgin

    virgin

    Those performance numbers indicate indeed that Quadriga is in the top 5 %
     
    #666     Feb 22, 2007
  7. tommy_b

    tommy_b

    ebo,

    "Christian has a Formula One Team, not just ads on the cars"

    Actually, that's not true. Formula Superfund is a series that they are starting. Formula Superfund is not the same as Formula One.
    In Formula One, they are still just a sponsor.

    However, I do wish that they would forget Formula Superfund and buy a team. Red Bull bought 2 teams!

    Good to hear that you money. I'm still up and will continue to average in.
     
    #667     Feb 22, 2007
  8. tommy_b

    tommy_b

    makloda,

    Also, the target market for Superfund might be different. I am a smaller investor and can get into Superfund at $5k with $1k additions. So, even if the other funds you name have better performance, I might not qualify. Looks like they have the market to themselves.
     
    #668     Feb 22, 2007
  9. That's a valid point. I believe the minimum to invest into AHL is 50k, and 500k to invest without entry/exit fees.
     
    #669     Feb 22, 2007
  10. tommy_b

    tommy_b

    Does anyone else know of any competitive funds in this entry/addition price range? I am looking for alternatives to Superfund for diversification. Aaron Schindler's fund is the closest I know with entry at $20k.
    I like to start small and average in, just in case I start out at the beginning of a draw down period.
     
    #670     Feb 22, 2007