Quadriga Superfund - Managed Futures

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by USAtrader, Mar 22, 2004.

  1. These numbers has nothing to do with Quad.. I am just making sure I fully understand these performance calculations that companies provide. I guess I confused some folks when I said "Fund A" in my example b/c Quad's fund is named "A" as well. But I did say 100K and Quad's numbers are in the billions.

    Sorry for the confusion, but thanks for the clarifcation.
     
    #271     May 16, 2004
  2. braye

    braye

    just wondering

    Oh wait, everyone is going to become a billionaire putting money in quadriga, earning 20-30-40-50-60-70-..................percent per year

    wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    grab on, here we go
     
    #272     May 16, 2004
  3. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Who cares if they blow up? Any fund can blow up right? Hell, a mutual fund can blow up. Anyone remember the Jacob internet fund? The point is, every investment has risk right. If there wasn't any risk in Quadriga, there wouldn't be any return right? Risk and return is the same thing. It's called volatility. This is trading 101. The day quadriga stops taking risk is the day I pull my money out.
     
    #273     May 16, 2004
  4. I looked thru their broshure and site but couldn't quite find how much the SUPERFUND Series A and Series B each has under management.

    Would you happen to know roughly how much is in each, Mav?

    Thanks..
     
    #274     May 16, 2004
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    I looked up on their website and it said the offering document is issued for up to 200 million for both the Series A and the series B. Now that does not mean that is how much money they actually have under management for each but rather the maximum they can have under each before the funds are closed. The last time I talked to Max, I think they are about 25% to 50% there. But don't quote me on that.
     
    #275     May 17, 2004
  6. can you short this fund?
     
    #276     May 17, 2004
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Sure. Short it synthetically.
     
    #277     May 17, 2004
  8. damir00

    damir00 Guest

    (before going any further, i should make it clear i AM NOT suggesting Quadriga is doing this...)

    funds do merge and keep one of the old names. what happens at the SEC level, i don't know, technically perhaps both funds shut down and instantaneously a new fund with the name of one of the old ones opens - i just don't know.

    i do know, however, that when merging funds the resultant fund can take it's historical performance from *either* fund. ie, there is no cap-weighted averaging of performances. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure a million scams with this: start a bunch of very small cap funds with very specific strategies, whenever the main fund needs a booster for advertising purposes, pick a hot-streaking microfund and merge it in - keeping the hot fund's performance.

    again, i am not in any way suggesting this is happening at Quadriga. just saying that fund merging history is an important item to ask about - because i can't be the only one who has thought of this and we all know what the street is like...
     
    #278     May 21, 2004
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Yes, I'm sure this is commonplace in the industry. I don't think Quadriga does this because Quadriga is basically one fund. They are all the same. There is no advantage to merge funds for advertisement purposes. They are all the same. The only difference between them is the underlying currency in which you invest with and the amount of leverage. So it's a good question, but in Quadriga's case, it's a moot point.
     
    #279     May 21, 2004
  10. Man... Quadriga really took it in the ass; down almost 20% in April! So much for making money in any environment.
     
    #280     Jun 3, 2004