PUT options liquidated at worst possible prices

Discussion in 'Options' started by somedudetrader, May 6, 2010.

  1. CAD (as your un-leveraged long base currency) didn't move enough to cause a USD-based product liquidation, and your leveraged-long USDCAD would've have covered any CAD base-currency exposure.

    What is "small amount" of long USDCAD? 100k units, perhaps?

    Edit: I don't think you're comprehending the impact of your leverage. Thanks for posting the liq notice, unfortunately, it doesn't tell us much. There are TWS bulletins that precede the liq-notice that would mention the trade that caused the liquidation.

    You blotted-out the account number, so I can't understand why you're concerned with account safety. Perhaps a public thread isn't best-practice if you're that paranoid.

    Absolutely my last request... did you go long USDCAD last Thursday, and if so, was it between 2:30 and 2:50 pm EDT?
     
    #301     May 11, 2010
  2. happy to...thinkorswim...I have a couple of accounts and have several options..I don't trade on a shoestring and I do manage risk. The whole problem is on occasion shit happens...but very briefly as we all found out..some kind of hanky panky and I just don't believe the small retail trader should have to pay.
     
    #302     May 11, 2010
  3. oh one more thing...back in 08 when major shit happened I did get caught. They called and talked with me and we worked thru my positions to get back on track. Again ....all I'm against is this auto liquidation. Brokers have a responsibility to manage risk...absolutely...but it should not be left to a computer. Only if the broker can not talk with the client at last gasp then take it down. But then thats the price you pay for cheap options/futures commish at IB I guess.
     
    #303     May 11, 2010
  4. "
    - x amount of June 119 SPY puts
    - x amount of June 114 SPY short puts
    - y amount of May 40 USO puts
    - y amount of May 37 USO short puts
    - small amount of short FX position in CAD/USD
    - cash (Canadian)
    "

    should read like this

    positions:

    - TINY x amount of June 119 SPY puts
    - TINY x amount of June 114 SPY short puts
    - TINY y amount of May 40 USO puts
    - TINY y amount of May 37 USO short puts
    - small amount of short FX position in CAD/USD
    - NEGLIGIBLE AMOUNT OF cash (Canadian)
    - SOMETHING ELSE , eh , MAYBE, I NEED TO OVERLOOK ...

    My thought is :

    After liquidation, the account is so tiny, it is not a huge
    concern to reveal the whole damn thing at all, unless
    there is something to hide. After all, the account will
    be shut down one way or the other, so no one will
    bother to hack into this tiny account in a short time.
     
    #304     May 11, 2010
  5. Ding Ding, the court (market) is open.

    The plaintiff (some dude): He cut off my legs during May 6 chaos :mad:

    The defendant (IB): He set my house on fire first :mad:

    The judge (ET): You are all found guilty :p :p :p
     
    #305     May 11, 2010
  6. I want to apologize to the OP for my being too quick to accuse him of lying. I accused him of lying, because I was angry about all the abuse I had taken for correctly diagnosing the trigger for his liquidation, and also because I couldn't believe a guy trading options at IB would honestly be as stupid as his presentation indicates. But on further consideration, I wonder if perhaps he honestly really is that stupid. If he honestly really is that stupid, then I owe him an apology.
     
    #306     May 11, 2010
  7. ammo

    ammo

    ................. crying about abuse while dishin it out ...............,u and wang,..will the real dumbfu...please step forward
     
    #307     May 11, 2010
  8. Case closed, there is nothing to be seen.
     
    #308     May 11, 2010
  9. Why are u so mean to a person is kind enough to warn about what some brokers may do. I closed my IB margin account and move to Thinkorswim partly due the dumb bots in volatile markets.

    There was absolutely no reason for IB bots to do what it did.
     
    #309     May 11, 2010
  10. Daal

    Daal

    IB should name their auto-liquidation software T-1000 :p
     
    #310     May 11, 2010