If I get banned I would just come back as another user name on a proxy server. Don\'t fool yourself, and don\'t make threats. Not trying to bash you, but you know what my opinions are of you, and even of Surdo is your buddy now that doesn\'t affect my opinion of you in the least. It makes me sick how vendors will go to any length to drum up business. I remember this line from an Alice In Chains song...\"we pay our debts sometime\". Remember that, it will come back around. It\'s one thing to take peoples money who are trading against you, but I place trading vendors who runs chat rooms somewhere on the scale between subprime lenders and the white frothy stuff that forms in the corner of your mouth when you\'re running in the desert and need water..... Ban me for my opinion, doesn\'t matter. It all boils down to money and tears around here anyway. So go cry if you need to.
Ha at least you admit it up front and honestly. You can have an opinion without being so verbally abusive. Or maybe you can't. Cajun
Yeah I\'m generally honest, unlike many. Think I\'d let somebody prevent me from coming here if I wanted to? You won\\\'t get anywhere in life thinking like that. Not being verbally abusive. Think about this: First, right now, you can have threads closed and if you cry hard enough you can probably get people banned. No problem. I hope you\'re proud of that fact. You are paying money for that privilege, it\'s not because Baron thinks you are a stand-up company and is taking up for you based on merit. I hope no one else is so naive as to believe it\'s any different. You pay money so your tears will be heard over the words of others. I\'d be really proud of that if I were you. But I look at it just like subprime lenders.....yeah see, the people who went off and bought houses they couldn\'t afford were full of greed and dishonesty for the most part.....others were just simply ignorant.... Still their fault for signing the paper work...educate yourself before conducting business involving any amount of money, especially a few hundred G\'s... BUT on the other hand, the subprime predatory lenders, well, they sent massive spam in the form of mailers, internet advertisements, emails, false testimony, false numbers, and hidden behind all the fine print was a financial bomb waiting to go off. The subprime lenders knew what they were getting into. They knew they were profiting from the laziness, greed and ignorance of others....eventually it came back around to them as well. Word got out...but it was too late for many.....however, there are now many people who are well aware of the dangers of subprime lending...even the ignorant ones who would normally still fall for it, are afraid of it, just because of the horrible reputation it now has. I\'m just saying, I wouldn\'t suggest you ever stop paying for advertising around here, because if you do...I imagine you\'ll probably end up teaming up with Franz from Bullseye trader and the rest of the gang, once people are able to offer their true opinion with impunity....without you crying and threatening to get people banned. You can ban me every day of your life and I\'d just come up with a new name and be on here stating my opinion. Not a big fan of those who take advantage of others for profit. Must be a moral thing. LOL Wonder at what point you\'ll be paying Baron for protection money for defense from people who want to really say what\'s on their minds, rather than just for aggressive advertising? Are you on the threshold right now, by any chance?
Intelligent comments are the last thing you want in this thread or you'd be out of business in no time.. the logic here is inescapable, if you could make money trading then you'd be trading not selling And threatening to get people banned is just pathetic
I agree, I think I was just threatened with a ban if I continued my intelligent comments....much less would they want them from others en masse\'
Sorry reaver, I have been busy trying to run a business. And also doing some Christmas shopping. Sometimes you have to wait for my responses. Just to state my opinion, you could use all the profanity you want every day, every minute of the day. I have dealt with tantrums and out of control people for a long time. If it makes you happy, publicly I ask Baron to let all the idiots scream and have their temper tantrums. Let's not though proclaim to anyone except in your wildest dreams that you are doing some kind of public service: protecting against scams. You want to protect the world against scams? Do what I did. Take a test to become a law enforcement officer. In fact take a test for the Suffolk County NY police department---the highest paid in the country. But keep in mind they do not take everyone. Even foul mouthed scam defenders. For example, when I took the test, 27,000 others took it for the 96 openings. I was number 3 on that list after they finished the written, psychological, and physical tests. Then you can specialize. If you had some business, or like me an Accounting education, then perhaps you can work in the frauds bureau, where you can investigate, compile evidence, work with prosecutors and arrest scam artists. I know that is a lot harder work than lurking in a public forum and screaming obscenities when you don't know what the hell you are even screaming about, but then again I bet I produced a lot more arrests than you ever did. And the dirt bags I locked up are serving (or at least were sentenced) to over 300 years cumulatively in prison. If I just jumped up and down in front of some alleged scammers house and called him or her *&*&^^%%* without compiling evidence, they probably would still be hard at work. Sure like you pointed out, they could get a new identity as you talked about doing and come back and do what ever they want again. But at least I did my part to put some criminals behind bars. What have you done? I can point to accomplishments that have been documented in newspapers. There have been television interviews. I can point to records. What I get pissed at is some nameless nobody, who takes a losers, no work attitude, expects the world to hand over everything yet wants to attack legitimate hard working people. You are like the beer swiller in a stadium yelling at a professional athlete because you paid $100.00 to get in the stadium. Like some moron attacking advice on a web site about playing quarterback, voicing your so-called opinion (although in reality it is nothing more than a barrage of swearing). Advisor: It is hard work to play quarterback. Reaver: *&*&& expletive deleted. Free advice is nothing. Who do you think you are scam artist? Advisor: Tom Brady and I play for the New England Patriots. Reaver: Oh Then reaver comes back into the room as tonyhawkskateman3. I don' t know who started the complaint process about too much profanity in the room. It was not me. It may have been my partner, I don't know. He is my partner, not a slave, nor my child. Maybe the producer of Elite Trader himself thought that this should be a trading room forum site where people discuss the business of trading, you know, like what methods one uses, how someone overcame adversity, some good books to read. Maybe he thought that if one wanted to practice profanity one still has plenty of options in this country. Go on youtube. Walk into some bar full of drunks and call them all out. Just yell on a street corner. I love the outbreaks. It attracts interest. Let's face it. Anyone who got beyond high school viewing the interaction between myself (a professional) and some loud mouth who has nothing to say but profanity and to yell scam, snake oil, scam, snake oil, scam, snake-oil, scam, snake oil, decides in two minutes: Hmmmm, let me check out that Puretick.com site. Hmmmm, since that leave it to reaver trader was never an actual member of the Puretick site, he would have no idea what the founders of the site actually teach. And from the free reading of the site materials would see us constantly talk about trading as a business. Talk about the hard work, the time, the frustration of becoming a professional trader. They would even hear me talk about the 4 years of losses I suffered before becoming a profitable trader. I think anyone beyond the 8th grade might say, "Hmmmm, if they were scammers why wouldn't they say, 'trade with Puretick and in 3 weeks you will make a hunk a dough'. Every one finds it easy to follow the trading calls.' Seems like they are trying to say that even with coaching and study many people just don't have what it takes to become a professional trader. Just like if Tom Brady gave a clinic to become a better quarterback. It would be unrealistic to assume that most attendees would become a professional quarterback." Alex L. Wasilewski Co-Founder & Head Trader Trades That Work www.puretick.com 1-877-GOLONG1 (1-877-465-6641)
Wow what a big bunch of mess. Well I made $325 trading Alex's/Pureticks calls on Tuesday so he definately knows how to trade. It's NOT easy and I could see how a newbie would think any trading room would be a scam. They just aren't expierenced enough to put on a position and manage it. No need to have a 30 page argument. bank
hey.. can I get login info.. with a dummy acct... I don't want to fill out those fields for a trial acct...want to check out the room..
I went past 8th grade. The problem isn't the offer of coaching. If so many newbs lose, and so many of those losers are losing for reasons related to psychology, that means that coaching might help some of them. The problem is your idiotic claims of 90% winning trades or 80% winning trades or whatever it is. That's what makes you a scammer. If you could trade with that kind of success rate, you would have zero reason to ever teach anyone because you would be rich in a matter of a xx years. Losing newbies don't need trade signals. Decent rade signals are available to anyone with that 8th grade education you mentioned. There a a hundred different ways to enter profitably. You guys are failed traders who realized that you could have a business selling snake oil to credulous newbs. And this is not to say that failed traders couldn't teach others based on their mistakes. Just drop the bogus win claims and say 'We'll train you even though we couldn't actually trade the markets ourselves'. Clear?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alex, no matter who teaches, a teacher is awlays going to have failure students PERIOD Even "Jesus" has a lot of failures. :eek: