Psychology, are you sure?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Alexis, Aug 9, 2009.

  1. I go further. when I open a position, I always start with “negative expectancy”, assuming the position is wrong and on the look out to close it before much damage is done.
     
    #101     Aug 20, 2009
  2. Exactly.

    A method with a postive expectancy over a long period of time creates the best psychology.

    Tiger woods has such great psychology because he has proven success.

    Having great psychology without success is simply living in fantasy land.

    The difference between genius and insanity is success.
     
    #102     Aug 20, 2009
  3. Psychology is like the concept of volatility in options trading, Volatility is a catch-all word for whatever a trader cannot control or explain.

    To reply post #48, you need read the Market Wizards book ( the 1st one is the best, read chapter about Bruve Kovner ) and book by Natenberg. Then find tradable options using IB's scanner and test your strategy in the Options Lab at http://www.TheOptionsLab.com

    Good luck
     
    #103     Aug 21, 2009
  4. As you know RN, I am about to depart this site, but I have to retrieve an e-mail address first.

    An here was me, thinking that a positive expectancy was some stupid math calculations based on a set number of trades, what an idiot I am!

    Sure I thought the most important thing when trading was to not loose too much money, but obviously I am wrong.

    It appears that it is far more important to do a few math calculations and base your success on a a few numbers - boy, how was I such a fool:D
     
    #104     Aug 21, 2009
  5. i am very proud of my trailer trash american roots and at least I know that my mother was not a whore and my father a bastard:D

    education you dim wit asshole has nothing to do with trading and it is dumb clueless thick fukin idiots like you and your inbreed like that enable us trash to make good money:D

    oh no oh no, too much o
    now i be, a fool you see
    for if i not get, my word ok
    a trader never, from this day

    the dumb ass twit, a bleedin git
    stuck up his arse, his head a farse
    he think the word, comes first u see
    but jack is shit, and always will be

    inbreed i say, his lot today
    with gammy jaw, and gaping awe
    his type are clear, as clear can be
    a trader never, ever never be

    his mothers fault, and fathers too
    for they not know, what to do
    blind as a coot, no mind at all
    and that is why, tradesall is small

    he is but a jack, shit in time
    his words are few, and do not rhyme
    his only way, to think he know
    is look at words, and say no no

    a fukin dim wit, if ever be
    and many like, him on et
    for they think, they know it all
    fact it be known, they know fuck all:D
     
    #105     Aug 21, 2009
  6. what in the name of sweet lovin fuck are you on about!

    do you think everyone is a thick stupid bastard lookin for fukin dim wit arseholes to show them all about options trading

    the market wizards are about as much use to a trader as happy potter and the dumbledorf fellow but i am sure that some thick dumb ass traders here will read your shite and learn something about trading

    you fuckin arseholes make me sick with your usual tripe and marketing rubbish

    go and start a thread for inbreed jack shit heads and we can all have a good laugh as ye learn how to trade correctly:D
     
    #106     Aug 21, 2009
  7. travis

    travis

    I agree with what you are saying - one shouldn't look down on other people because of their spelling mistakes. You should only criticize someone - politely and respectfully - if they can (easily) fix what you are criticizing. Other than this it's similar to racism. I mean, "trailer trash"... wow, do we realize what we are implying? A person saying this is basically bragging about having been born rich. It's first of all illogical (like other insults).

    But I would just ignore racist posts, waiting for moderators to delete them. I would use the "complain" and "ignore" features. Luckily, there's balanced moderators here, unlike on another financial forum I was using, where there is this one moderator who participates in the discussions with personal remarks, offending other users, using his power to delete respectful posts he happens to disagree with, moving threads, banning users, for anything but objective motivations.

    Regarding the dispute on whether we need a healthy psychology or simply a profitable method, in my opinion the best post of this thread is the one starting the thread. Of course, I say this because I agree with it. Many later posts (even recent ones) repeat the sense of that initial post. Let me quote once again the sentence I liked the most:
    "If you trust your strategies, there is no room for thinking or doubts".
    Alexis wrote this great post, starting a great thread, and then he left. I would like to pay respect to his insight.
     
    #107     Aug 21, 2009
  8. For God's sake, travis, if there is only one person who disagrees with the OP, it should be you.

    According to your own admission, you have struggled for 12 years as a trader. TWELVE LONG YEARS!

    After 12 years, you start to claim that psychology is not important.

    How can you agree with the OP?

    What kind of misleading signal are you sending to other traders?
     
    #108     Aug 21, 2009
  9. Would you please make an effort to depart this earth while you're at at it? Thanks.
     
    #109     Aug 21, 2009
  10. I was not a believer in how important psyc really was until I met a true 100 lot trader. He made the jump from 5 lots to a 100 lot in a 4 month period working with a trading coach. He was profitable for about 2 years and still trading 5 lots and within 4 months made that type of increase. I saw the statements first hand. Keep in mind the most diciplined person wont make shit without an edge but the edge itself may not make you a winner.
     
    #110     Aug 21, 2009