Prudent Risk Management Is The Only True Edge In TRADING

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Buy1Sell2, Jul 6, 2015.

Is Prudent Risk Management the only true edge in trading?

  1. Yes

    55 vote(s)
    30.7%
  2. No

    124 vote(s)
    69.3%
  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Then we are agreed.
     
    #821     Oct 8, 2023
  2. taowave

    taowave

    Sure if it helps you sleep at night, why not??? :)


     
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    #822     Oct 8, 2023
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  3. I would disagree that PRM is the only true edge as it isn't an edge per se. PRM would only make you bleed out slower if you don't have a method with a positive expectancy.

    On the other hand, you might have a method with a positive expectancy which blows up merely on noise because you don't utilize PRM. So, it's no doubt essential for trading success, but without a method with a positive expectancy, it won't make your success.
     
    #823     Oct 8, 2023
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  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Proper utilization of PRM creates positive expectancy and thus is the only true edge in trading.
     
    #824     Oct 8, 2023
  5. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    You sound like an idiot!

    Positive expectancy is defined as... how much money, on average, we can expect to make for every dollar we risk.

    At it's best, PRM is a valve to control the Average Gain/Loss of a particular trade/system/method. The valve does not create Expectancy, positive or negative.
     
    #825     Oct 8, 2023
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  6. taowave

    taowave

    Cmon,now you are just trolling


     
    #826     Oct 8, 2023
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    @Buy1Sell2, PRM is necessary but not sufficient.

    No one is arguing with you that it is a necessary condition. The question is if it is also a sufficient condition for profitable trading?

    If it is necessary and sufficient, then you can make money even in a random market. Unless there is an error in my code, my simple and quick simulation does not support your claim.
     
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    #827     Oct 8, 2023
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  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    I do want to give @Buy1Sell2 credit. Here is my post on another thread:

     
    #828     Oct 9, 2023
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  9. taowave

    taowave

    And we need to make the distinction between trading and investing, which the OP did. Regardless,There is no 1 single miracle cure


     
    #829     Oct 9, 2023
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  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    But in your response you overtly use the word risk. This is all we can control----risk. PRM is not just about cutting losses, it is also about maximizing wins. This is the only True Edge in trading.
     
    #830     Oct 9, 2023
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