Prudent Risk Management Is The Only True Edge In TRADING

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Buy1Sell2, Jul 6, 2015.

Is Prudent Risk Management the only true edge in trading?

  1. Yes

    55 vote(s)
    30.7%
  2. No

    124 vote(s)
    69.3%
  1. "Cut your losses short and let your winners run. Excellent advice, but you're talking generalities. When you get to the specifics of how to do this, it becomes a lot more complicated and without some type of edge all you are going to do is delay taking your trading account to zero."

    @deaddog, Jan 27, 2016

    "Have you tried it?
    Most traders wont cut losses or let winners run.
    They hope the losers will come back and take small profits as soon as the price starts to move against them."

    @deaddog, Aug 26, 2023
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2023
    #791     Aug 26, 2023
  2. deaddog

    deaddog

    I don't think I changed my mind. Just curious as to what criteria you were programing in. :)
     
    #792     Aug 26, 2023
  3. To quote @Buy1Sell2 from way back in this thread, it's proprietary :)
     
    #793     Aug 26, 2023
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  4. deaddog

    deaddog

    Wow!! You're going to program a proprietory bot that you believe doesn't work.
     
    #794     Aug 26, 2023
  5. I'm programming that bot like I'm dashing to the nearest casino. Humor, my friend. Or was that your attempt at humor?
     
    #795     Aug 26, 2023
  6. deaddog

    deaddog

    LOL!! My bad; thought you were serious.
    And I thought I had a pretty good sense of humor.
    Now I see it. :)
     
    #796     Aug 26, 2023
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  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    Perhaps it is true if you always BUY1 then SELL2... :D
     
    #797     Aug 26, 2023
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  8. Jzwu2017

    Jzwu2017

    I think in the current (and probably future) market with AI/algo trading, cutting your loss short is still valid as always. However, letting your winner run is rather questionable, perhaps more like taking your profit quick.

    Therefore, risk management is not the true edge. At best you’re just making small profits.
     
    #798     Aug 27, 2023
  9. virtusa

    virtusa

    One of the things I learned while being many years on ET is that if the discussion goes in round circles and never reaches an ending point it is better to stop that discussion.
    This thread has 60 pages of discussions that make no sense for various reasons.

    What is part of the risk management, and what is part of the tradeplan? I have no risk management at all, and never needed one.

    What was there first? The chicken or the egg?

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    One possible thing that makes sense is compare three traders who have a different opinions:
    • one thinks risk management is the only edge
    • one that thinks risk management is NOT the only edge
    • one that thinks risk management is NOT an edge at all
    The one with the best results has the correct answer.

    But then we can post again 80 pages to discuss if one of them was just lucky, or that the lenght of the test was not long enough, or maybe even too long, etc,etc...

    I don't understand why people can repeat in 20 posts that they are right and the others are wrong without getting any 100% correct proof. It is like trying to find the start and ending point of a lemniscate. Never ending.
     
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    #799     Aug 27, 2023
  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    In all seriousness @taowave, you are a professional options type, likely have never done professional day trading.

    For some day trading approaches, I think "risk management" is their edge. 30% of ET voted for it, they cannot be all fools.

    @Buy1Sell2 like you have been around for years, from his name & longevity, likely a good day trader and I do take him seriously.
     
    #800     Aug 27, 2023