Prudent Risk Management Is The Only True Edge In TRADING

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Buy1Sell2, Jul 6, 2015.

Is Prudent Risk Management the only true edge in trading?

  1. Yes

    55 vote(s)
    30.7%
  2. No

    124 vote(s)
    69.3%
  1. %%
    YES, you would, even though IBD also uses 40 week ma LOL.
    AND YOU probably have noticed ,iron chef[aka iron chief];
    depending on if its an uptrend or downtrend; a 50 dma can be ahead of a 200 day moving av or vice versa.
    I dont use a 40 week ma, myself.:caution::caution::D:D[EDIT NOT magic,50+ 200dma= Fibo numbers + IBD ideas.
    50% off sale is also a good volume mover......
     
    #781     Aug 17, 2023
  2. taowave

    taowave

    You are confusing money management and edge.MM is not edge and there is no "universal thruth"..

    If you want to make a point,back it up with numbers,i.e simple stats








     
    #782     Aug 26, 2023
  3. deaddog

    deaddog

    Not so sure about that.
    Edge is being able to see something in the market in time to be able to exploit it.
    Without money management edge may not be enough.
     
    #783     Aug 26, 2023
  4. taowave

    taowave

    Retail guys love to throw around the word edge..MM is rarely edge..Accurately predicting the probability of an event over time is closer to the " "edge" than the other parts he refers to at the retail level.

    Why do you think every Hedge fund/IB has a team of quants and programmers??

    Edge may be speed/ technology,research,quant/modeling, non correlated trades/businesses within a fund and or flow ..

    And without saying ,there has to be some sort of risk modeling,risk limits in place.

    Yeah,if you are great at any and all,it's an edge







     
    #784     Aug 26, 2023
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  5. I was trying to make the same point as @taowave in our little exchange here. Your edge is not due to cutting your losses quickly and letting your winners run, but rather your stock selection (and probably other factors). Otherwise any monkey could write a bot that picks random stocks and cuts losses quickly and lets winners run, and we'd all be millionaires.
     
    #785     Aug 26, 2023
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  6. deaddog

    deaddog

    Have you tried it?
    Most traders wont cut losses or let winners run.
    They hope the losers will come back and take small profits as soon as the price starts to move against them.
     
    #786     Aug 26, 2023
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  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Yes, that is exactly what happens. The full and correct use of PRM is the edge.
     
    #787     Aug 26, 2023
  8. Programming the bot as we speak.

    Thanks for the tip. I live in Vegas and am now making a frantic dash for the nearest casino to put PRM into action.
     
    #788     Aug 26, 2023
  9. deaddog

    deaddog

    Entry and exit criteria?
     
    #789     Aug 26, 2023
  10. What made you change your mind? The thread is too long for me to find the answer myself.
     
    #790     Aug 26, 2023