Prudent Risk Management Is The Only True Edge In TRADING

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Buy1Sell2, Jul 6, 2015.

Is Prudent Risk Management the only true edge in trading?

  1. Yes

    45 vote(s)
  2. No

    107 vote(s)
  1. Buy1Sell2


    #41     Jul 13, 2015
  2. qxr1011


    imho risk management - is a result of correct trading method that encompasses the entry, the position management and the exit

    so it is not an only edge , its not even an edge in itself, it's a result of the edge and its proper exploitation
    #42     Jul 13, 2015
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    and trend study + trends.........................................................
    #43     Jul 30, 2015
  4. Hydraace


    imho risk management is all about known you entry your exist and how to manage your position by setting hard and soft limits and being disciplined.
    Prudent Risk management is all about timely execution on all of those fronts with positive results.
    Like many have said. Knowing when to get out of a bad trade is pivotal in preserving the stack. ;)
    #44     Aug 3, 2015
  5. Visaria


    Identifying the trend in a given time frame is easy. All you need to do is to develop a definition of trend and then apply it to the market/time frame in question. Easy!

    Knowing where to enter and where to exit to take advantage of the trend, well that's the tricky part.
    #45     Aug 8, 2015
  6. loyek590


    that's why I say you have to be in to win (or at least have resting stops to enter.) I'm too slow to catch a fast moving trend. Almost every good strong trend I have ever been on the right side of was just a lucky accident. Exiting is another matter. There's no good way to exit a trade. That's why I just don't do it. If I haven't been stopped out I just move on and let the profitable trade take care of itself. At some point it will be a thurs night before NFP sitting on a huge profit, or everything is just working too well, or they have given me so much money it is just ridiculous, then maybe I will close out, but it very rarely has anything to do with my ability to guess the end of the trend.
    #46     Aug 8, 2015
  7. Visaria


    loyek, i have read many of your posts and your method ("i never take a profit") is intriguing. May i ask you some questions?

    1) what's your historical win rate?
    2) do your profits easily cover your losses and much more?
    3) how do you exit the profitable trades? when you say you let the profitable trade take care of itself, what does that mean?
    4) do you add to your profitable trades?

    #47     Aug 8, 2015
  8. loyek590


    1. incredibly low
    2. easily, but it takes forever
    3. I don't know, just depends on the market
    4. always, that is my only "secret"
    #48     Aug 8, 2015
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  9. loyek590


    I have a mechanical sytem with no exit strategy. If you trade it long enough, eventually you will go broke. I have no stress because I already know how it will go. But getting back to prudent money management, just like any poor employee, I put a little of my profits away for old age. I suppose I would be richer if I had just piled on, but I'm already nervous enough as it is. The only peace in my life is opening up my Vanguard mutual fund statement. It can be down 50% and compared to trading I still feel safe.
    #49     Aug 8, 2015
  10. Visaria


    More intrigue! Why will you go broke if you trade it long enough?
    #50     Aug 9, 2015