Prudent Risk Management Is The Only True Edge In TRADING

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Buy1Sell2, Jul 6, 2015.

Is Prudent Risk Management the only true edge in trading?

  1. Yes

    55 vote(s)
    30.7%
  2. No

    124 vote(s)
    69.3%
  1. tommo

    tommo

    I have been making 6 figures a year solely from trading for almost 10 years. I'm happy enough with the experiences I have had guiding me
     
    #271     Feb 18, 2016
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  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Coin flipping is 50%
     
    #272     Feb 18, 2016
  3. tommo

    tommo

    Sigh... Yes! Because you can only go long or short. 2 options. 50/50.

    But that doesn't mean your odds of winning is 50/50
     
    #273     Feb 18, 2016
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  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    I direct your attention to the poll above. It has a correlation with the widely publicized contention that most traders fail. Successful traders realize that PRM is the only true edge in trading. Anyone, I mean anyone can pick entries. Few can manage risk.
     
    #274     Feb 18, 2016
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    But a successful trader doesn't even need 50% wins to be highly successful
     
    #275     Feb 18, 2016
  6. romik

    romik

    A run of 'bad luck' can happen to a high win system too, but what would happen to an inverted risk:reward strategy then? (you mentioned earlier that your acquaintances within the industry regularly risk 10 to gain 1).
     
    #276     Feb 18, 2016
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  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    that's right Romy----Wonder what your win percentage would need to be with risk 10 to get 1
     
    #277     Feb 18, 2016
  8. tommo

    tommo


    Because the traders i cited risking 10 to make 1 have an edge and will typically win 20 or 30 times in a row for every loss.

    We're going in circles. Please by all means go and run a backtest on your strategies. I will bet you money right here right now it will not make money.

    You are assuming a 50-50 choice leads to a 50-50 outcome
     
    #278     Feb 18, 2016
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  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    --or whether or not Phil Hellmuth would advocate putting 10 dollars into a 1 dollar pot
     
    #279     Feb 18, 2016
  10. romik

    romik

    Tommo, we aren't being argumentative for the sake of the argument, all a nice debate. Let's carry on.

    I think you made an irrelevant example with coin tossing to a degree, because it doesn't support your notion.
     
    #280     Feb 18, 2016
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