Prove to me that Technical Analysis Works.

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by TazTheLaz, May 28, 2022.

  1. Ivano

    Ivano

    True, `SPX` over `200 MA` may or not define a bull market( depending of course if one is fan of Tudor Jones :) ) but is not per se an environment where 20 day `BO` works always because there are periods of choppy oscillations really long above `200MA`, i have to correct myself, is really when there is euphoria, and everybody can agree and decide which parameter using to determine this, because there are a plethora of ways to go, to understand if is *that* period can last a year or a 2 weeks short lived rally that ALWAYS come in a year, that everybody loves.

    Back testing is overrated for technical analysis imo, and not because of fitting curves or delisted/not delisted stocks, but because as our troll/OP suggested the past does not predict the future, and is left to our intelligence and research on how to be smart on this point. We do not need to be outsmarted by pool of geniuses employed by a market maker or investment bank, fund, I want to play in their direction, and usually is not a day trade game. My first tought is: when the market goes crazy up or whipsaws down who and why is taking the other direction, who is exploiting miss volatility. How and when to backtest is left to my intelligence and my python skills

    In 2020 even if one had planted a plant on ashes would have grown to the sky. ADX? Indeed is a super lagging indicator to me, but is the context where is used that matters I guess. I am not a trader for a living, I am newbe, and can identify quite a few psychological mistakes I did this year, so do not care anymore about bull traps, head fakes, (possible) manipulations, because I do not want to overtrade, I want to learn from my mistakes..because I am mostly a technical trader. Few of use would dare to disagree maybe that losses can come after a streak of confident hits:banghead::rolleyes:, this happens when one does not have a solid method to `entry` and jump on every train. So I stick with my custom setup and wait for the market. Market will come and is better not gaining money that losing in an unfavorable adverse mediocre trade. I will take my endorphins from running and coding not by trading. As a consequence entry point and exit you mention make an huge difference, and so every aspect can help my daily mantra: how to increase my possibilities to increase my profitability?
     
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    #141     May 29, 2022
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    Price action charting (using only a few indicators) has made a lot of people a lot of money. Among other quant stuff what do you think algo's use? tea leaves?
    For your information I use some fundamental information as I do not touch cash losing companies (I do not day trade). BTW. Bringing up Buffett is just silly in this context...
    The fact that the markets have gone up in the last 90+ years with minor bear markets is technical analysis.
     
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    #142     May 29, 2022
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  3. this is basically my mentor swing trading strategy.
     
    #143     May 29, 2022
  4. Ivano

    Ivano

    Dear fellow trader/investor I see you gotta a lot of likes and also you reply in the automated trading forum, so you suggest montecarlo simulation that is based on statistics.

    I am not an expert but would we have some common ground saying that there are a lot of documented traders that do money year after year with technical analysis whatever they define as such? Is not maybe this is a proof?

    One could say no these people use secretly fundamental/quantitative analysis and then declare that are TA experts, but then we could say the same for Mr.Buffet that declare is FA and do not use TA
     
    #144     May 29, 2022
  5. virtusa

    virtusa

    I blocked smallfil longtime ago too. What a relief!
     
    #145     May 29, 2022
  6. If you want proof that TA works all you have to do is read through volpri's journal. He analyzes his trades and shows exactly how he trades. He made one response on this thread but is too modest to promote himself. He is a day trade scalper and does it brilliantly.
     
    #146     May 29, 2022
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  7. i blocked that fool too!
     
    #147     May 29, 2022
  8. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    No offense, but these two excerpts from your long comment will suffice. If you believe there's a strong edge in TA, prove it by real-time trading calls. But to even find a possible edge, you'll have to backtest. I'm assuming you (or someone) did that for your "custom edge." If not, you might as well go to the casino.

    You can wax eloquently (or not so eloquently) all you want about why TA "works" but the proof is in the pudding. Where are the real-time, market-beating results of someone using retail-level TA? This doesn't include Jim Simons types, who use much more sophisticated strategies and rely on speed/HFT the rest of us can't access.
     
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    #148     May 29, 2022
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  9. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    And we can be 100% positive that he's as profitable and brilliant as you say because......?

    Don't tell me to look through some 764 page journal. We simply need sanitized account statements or 3rd party audited performance for a significantly long period. With all the claims of super successful anon traders on here, I've yet to see something like that. The most I've seen are single trade screenshots from Desterio (or Destitute or something) that could've easily been photoshopped. Or maybe he didn't show the 5 losing trades he gets along with each winning trade.
     
    #149     May 29, 2022
  10. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    Not so sure about that chart. It says "there will always be a new high in a few years" and includes the 1929 crash where it took 25+ years to make a new all-time-high. Let's hope we don't go the Japan route, where the Nikkei still hasn't topped the peak it reached at the end of 1989.
    Nikkei 225 Index - 67 Year Historical Chart | MacroTrends
     
    #150     May 29, 2022
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