Protecting a DITM call spread

Discussion in 'Options' started by xandman, Jan 23, 2017.

  1. JackRab

    JackRab

    please do point me to the post where I made this statement... (which I didn't)...
     
    #61     Jan 25, 2017
  2. destriero

    destriero


    Jack, my apologies!

    I ran the combos but obv it does reduce further. I saw both a put and call vert but inverted one of the signs, and at one point mixed the 30/60 natural with a synthetic.

    Moral... look for (same sign) put and call vert pairs to reduce to a single synthetic vertical (exposure). And Dest is an a$$hole.

    Mea Culpa.
     
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    #62     Jan 25, 2017
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  3. destriero

    destriero


    Here. You were quoting the EOM fly when I was quoting the Feb1. It settled at 35.15 (implied by the iron fly credit of 24.85 mid).

    So 41.6 less the 35 settle. You implied it dropped 6-7 on "gamma" assuming today's settle at 35.15.
     
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    #63     Jan 25, 2017
  4. JackRab

    JackRab

    @destriero apologies accepted... let's move on... and aim for a beer within the next 4 years.
     
    #64     Jan 25, 2017
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  5. destriero

    destriero

    Sounds good.
     
    #65     Jan 25, 2017
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  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I'll buy.
     
    #66     Jan 25, 2017
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  7. Just curious about " long 2200/2260 CS = short 2200/2260 PS (fact) ", when two spreads are traded separately :

    Do they have same margin requirement? Probably not!
    Do they have same pin risk profile? Probably not!
    ...
     
    #67     Feb 1, 2017
  8. JackRab

    JackRab

    Hey, we're starting again...

    I don't know about the margin, probably you are right that they are different. But I was talking about risk profiles.
    Pin risk isn't of the highest concern... and that's manageable, though not perfectly. But if there's a 50/50 chance you will be assigned, you hedge accordingly on close. And therefore IMO short ATM put is the same as short ATM call in terms of pin riks.
     
    #68     Feb 1, 2017
  9. JackRab

    JackRab

    Just checked re margin... they are exactly the same, which would make sense since they have the same risk
     
    #69     Feb 1, 2017