Protecting a covered call position

Discussion in 'Options' started by Pekelo, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. DTB2

    DTB2

    If a position is profitable when the underlying goes up, it's a bullish position. Can't get simpler than that.

    Buying a stock and selling it higher (called away) is definitely bullish.

    The purpose of a covered call is (or at least should be) to get called away.
     
    #21     Mar 25, 2018
  2. ET180

    ET180

    If you're very confident that the stock will drop, then sell the stock and buy puts. If you think it will go back to the strike price, but not much further, sell the stock and leave the short call on. When in doubt, get out.
     
    #22     Mar 25, 2018
  3. DTB2

    DTB2

    Why all this work?
    I buy ABC @ 100 and would be happy if it got to 110. Sell the 110 call, collect a premium, if stock is called away 110 what is the issue?

    Do not do CC if you cannot tolerate the stock being called away.

    KISS
     
    #23     Mar 25, 2018
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  4. spindr0

    spindr0

    Theory and option greek mumbo jumbo? LOL.

    People tend to sell OTM covered calls (see OP's question)
    The position is delta long
    It earns money when the stock moves higher
    It loses money when the stock moves lower
    These are not the characteristics of a neutral position.
     
    #24     Mar 26, 2018
  5. wildchild

    wildchild

    Close position. When I do CC I try to sell calls at the money. If there is a decent price increase the call is then in the money by quite a bit. As the price moves and the options becomes deeper in the money, it is losing premuim.

    Determine how much premium you want and what kind of decay you are looking for. Once enough premium has been removed from the option, close out.
     
    #25     Mar 26, 2018
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  6. What is the issue?

    • Low premium collected.
    • If ABC got to $110 it will most likely settle well above $110.
    • The option premium collected will be less than the difference of ABC and the option strike (110.00).
    • Options 101 - "There is no free lunch".
     
    #26     Mar 26, 2018
  7. wildchild

    wildchild

    Covered calls are not a method to get rich, nor is buying options. Like most other instruments the options market is fairly efficient and finding mis-priced options is not a trivial task.

    Covered calla and naked puts have essentially the same reward curve. In a bull, neutral, or even mildly bearish market you can clean up, but sooner or later that fat tail on the distribution curve whips around and catches you.
     
    #27     Mar 26, 2018
  8. DTB2

    DTB2

    Low premium/high premium, if the underlying hits my target price ($110), whatever the premium is enhances the trade.

    If ABC settles above $110, who cares? My target was $110, mission accomplished, onto the next trade.

    Again, so what.

    Who is looking for a free lunch?
     
    #28     Mar 26, 2018

    • Buy the stock only.
    • The short call will act as an anchor to your trade.
     
    #29     Mar 26, 2018

    • I never posted they where -so don't quote my posts and throw that in there.
    • I don't like Covered Calls - as my posts indicate.
     
    #30     Mar 26, 2018