Proprietary Trading Firms

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by optionzztrader, May 15, 2006.

  1. As a new trader to stocks, I STRONGLY advice against trading earnings stocks and anything Cramer is talking about (on an intraday basis). The bottom line is, you wont be quick enough to compete with the pros nor will you be able to handle the big intraday swings on some of the earnings stocks. Its better to learn on the less active stocks, though more boring, but at least you'll be able to learn how the equities game works without putting yourself in those risky situations.





     
    #81     May 21, 2006
  2. Guess I should stay away then, I'm happy with AAPL and VLO and all those that move very nicely during the day anyways.

    Steve, do you trade fast or slow moving stocks?
     
    #82     May 21, 2006
  3. Fast and volitile SOB's :D

     
    #83     May 21, 2006
  4. Yeah!!! the fast and furious :D
     
    #84     May 21, 2006
  5. Hey, this is a serious question...and I pull the trigger hundreds of times a day! - on real money. Actually, it is BECAUSE I have real money on the line that I am concerned with this hypothetical situation...

    Things that may be unimaginable do happen sometimes, people do lose millions of dollars, and I'd like to know what kind of risk is on my shoulders - that's the whole thing with risk...we're dealing with possibilities here - might never happen, but I want to know what I'm responsible for.

    So I'll post it again, and see if anybody can provide some info:



    What kind of loss assignment are we talking about? At a prop firm, say a trader is long full buying power, $5million in a trade...the stock gets halted, the company is going under, and the guy just lost $5million.

    Say there are 50 traders in total, are we saying that each trader might be assigned 1-50th of the loss? Would each trader be liable for $100,000 even if they each contributed a $5,000 or $20,000 deposit or whatever? Are we talking about those kinds of loss assignments or just about risking up to the trader's deposit amount at prop firms?
     
    #85     May 21, 2006
  6. .... now that just somehow made me scared... I'd be ......... destroyed if something like that happened.
     
    #86     May 21, 2006
  7. NKNY

    NKNY

    Quick Question Don... What is the haircut on un-hedged long or short overnight diversified positions with a max of 4 to 5 % in each positon.

    Thanks
     
    #87     May 22, 2006
  8. Oh, I think a few traders were "grandfathered in" and some exchanges allow some off-floor trading for their members and groups.

    Don
     
    #88     May 22, 2006
  9. Maximum would be 1% per month for naked positions.

    Don
     
    #89     May 22, 2006
  10. You have a right to be concerned ...check most of the other firms, they have had to use their traders money for "net capital requirements" - you can tell by checking balance sheets, and if they "Lock up" your money for some period of time. Our LLC members will not be liable for anything above their deposit, unless they are in some sort of regulatory violations or something like that.

    Imagine being with a Firm that does not put up the $10Million, or who use their traders money to be able to comply with regulations...that's where you all should be directing your legitimate concerns.

    (Due Diligence, balance sheets, etc......"security" is one of the most important factors in developing a "comfort level" for your trading).


    Don
     
    #90     May 22, 2006