Prop Trading Firms - Note On Threatening Regulatory Developments

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by traderob, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Robert Green is shilling his tax services. Yes, there is a reason why the SEC has not made a public statement, because there is no statement to Make!!! Oh wait, it's a secret. Yes, our already intrusive government is going to start changing the laws on us without telling us, that way they can get us easier. Ha! I love it. Reardon Metal is actually starting to look rational now!
     
    #121     Oct 10, 2006
  2. I don't understand. Why would the SEC do anything to help anyone? Why would they do anything constructive at all?
    The sole function of government is to repeatedly fuck us over while calling it 'Liberty', hands in our pockets and boots on our throats. Would you expect the mafia to post a helpful notice, clarifying their shakedown terms to their victims?

    The NASD on the other hand, is capable of improvement. Election of Sam Lek would be a good start.
     
    #122     Oct 10, 2006
  3. I knew that you had this whole plan already devised, and that you have always been a "closet Bright Trader"....LOL.

    "Mavco" - I like that!!

    Don :D
     
    #123     Oct 10, 2006
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Don, are you behind this whole SEC thing to get Mavco off the ground. I smell a conspiracy here!
     
    #124     Oct 10, 2006
  5. Is this true?
     
    #125     Oct 10, 2006
  6. I can't imagine it would be very difficult for the SEC to enforce an action against the sub-LLC.
     
    #126     Oct 10, 2006
  7. So to clarify, would the following be affected or not under the supposed changes?

    - LLC operating as a a Reg T account holder with a firm, 4:1 BP max.
    - LLC has partners that maintain a contribution in the partnership
    - Partners are allocated a large percentage of profits (80-100%) generated by trading for the partnership and assume responsibility for losses incurred.
    - Partners pay fees such as commissions associated with trading for the partnership.

    And how is this whole situation different from the hedge fund world where the LP or LLC is effectively a group of active traders using leverage as people have mentioned?
     
    #127     Oct 10, 2006

  8. The vast majority* of equity hedge funds do not exceed Reg T. The hedge fund is a pooled investment of OPM, not primarily consisting of contributions from the fund's traders.



    *Hennessee: http://sec.gov/spotlight/hedgefunds/hedge-gradante.pdf#search="hennessee reg t"
     
    #128     Oct 10, 2006

  9. Agreed, but you're missing the main point: now that Hedge Fund regulation is dead, they (The SEC) have NOTHING TO DO. So, to keep their bureaucratic jobs, they've had to come up with SOMETHING. As you can see, unbridled bureaucracy leads to more bureaucracy....and yes, sometimes with disasterous effects (via legislation).
     
    #129     Oct 10, 2006
  10. According to the article on Green's website, this was brought on by REFCO traders complaints. They were trying to get there money back by claiming they were disguised retail traders.
     
    #130     Oct 10, 2006