Proof that Israel is #1 theat to our freedom

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TorontoTrader2, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. Gio 2009

    Gio 2009

    someone who believes this propaganda has clearly never been to israel. they are the lone outpost of democracy in an otherwise hostile and barbaric region. they don't "wall them up", they wall themselves up so that the psychotic suicide bombers can't get in. remember palestenians can travel THE OTHER WAY to jordan or egypt. what israel needs to do is to quit subsidising palestine, they need to quit feeding palestine, they need to quit subsidising their electricity and water needs. that's what israel needs to do.
     
    #11     Aug 23, 2009
  2. Gio 2009

    Gio 2009

    Israel has:

    * The most patents per capita;
    * The most engineers and scientists per capita;
    * The most scientific papers per capita;
    * The second highest book publishing per capita;
    * The most museums per capita;
    * The highest concentration of high-tech companies per capita and second highest in total numbers;
    * One of only 8 nations with a space program;
    * Israel has the world’s largest research center;
    * The most per capita and third overall after US and Canada among companies traded on Wall Street.

    Israelis developed the first cell phone, voicemail, text messaging, ICQ instant messangers, network firewalls, Intel Centrino and Pentium 4, the first anti-virus software, the first solar power plant. (A whole bunch of other stuff like phenomenal tanks and nuclear weapons. They are #3 in college degrees and #1 in graduate degrees.)
     
    #12     Aug 23, 2009
  3. Agreed.

    I am currently reading a review of world events of 1969, and find it interesting, regarding the state of Israel, the following occurred with regards to some of its welfare programs:

    ".....Imaginative welfare programs in 1969 included the first permanent settlement for Bedouin nomads, housing 40 families in solar-heated stone houses around a traditional open market. Eight Druse girls became the first group from the Israeli minority to be trained as kindergarten teachers. Israel also voted more than $7 million for new housing for both Arabs and Jews in east Jerusalem. .........."

    A review of the same year for her Arab neighbor states is not as uplifting.
     
    #13     Aug 23, 2009
  4. Illum

    Illum

    No doubt they are a great people, but their government and actions to Palestine are horrific imo. I just see no reason for the US to support it. What possible good can come of it?
     
    #14     Aug 23, 2009
  5. Bakinec

    Bakinec

    While not a threat to American freedom, Israel sure is a pain in the ass for American foreign policy and its image abroad.

    The rest is bullshit Arab-Muslim propaganda.

    If Arabs actually used the charity money given them for the benefit of their own people rather than for financing the relatives of suicide bombers, posters and "documentaries" against Israel, there would be more peace in the Mideast.
     
    #15     Aug 24, 2009
  6. Bakinec

    Bakinec

    LOL. The irony of this is simply hilarious.

    They should have left his ass in the streets for dead, and let the Arabs which he loves so much provide medical care for him.

    At least that way the anti-Israeli rhetoric of this post would be justified.
     
    #16     Aug 24, 2009
  7. If you dare, here's a lot of pictures of Israel attacking a school.

    Your tax dollars make lots of "cripsy critters". After all, an arab live is worth NOTHING in Israel!! They slaughter them with as much feeling as stepping on an ant.

    http://www.rense.com/general87/phos.htm

    It's been fifty year of this; every kid in Israel is brainwashed an handed a gun and WMD at age 18....a true death cult with one goal...to kill. The US tax dollars help pay for the WMD.

    Gee, why do they hate us...I have no idea...non at all. Dum de dum....
     
    #17     Aug 26, 2009
  8. Bakinec

    Bakinec

    Where are the bodies of the terrorists who fired rockets from the school? Nice work! Seems not a nation has anything on Arabs' masterful grasp of propaganda.

    Palestinians think 7 innocent dead children is a small price for them to pay when they can have photos of them all the over the internet to "prove" what a child-killing Arab hater the "Zionist state" is.

    Like I said before, Palestinians wouldn't have to willingly sacrifice the lives of their children to make a point to the world if they would simply realize that spending all the money they spend financing the terrorists and their families could be better spent building their own society.
     
    #18     Aug 27, 2009
  9. This is a fanatical, racist and violent regime with a perverse ideology who is harboring secret nukes! I wonder if any will make it into the USA, if we do not co-operate with their demands and they seek revenge?

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    Obama Agrees to Keep Israel's Nukes Secret


    By Eli Lake

    October 02, 2009 "Washington Times" -- President Obama has reaffirmed a 4-decade-old secret understanding that has allowed Israel to keep a nuclear arsenal without opening it to international inspections, three officials familiar with the understanding said.

    The officials, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because they were discussing private conversations, said Mr. Obama pledged to maintain the agreement when he first hosted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House in May.

    Under the understanding, the U.S. has not pressured Israel to disclose its nuclear weapons or to sign the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), which could require Israel to give up its estimated several hundred nuclear bombs.

    Israel had been nervous that Mr. Obama would not continue the 1969 understanding because of his strong support for nonproliferation and priority on preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons. The U.S. and five other world powers made progress during talks with Iran in Geneva on Thursday as Iran agreed in principle to transfer some potential bomb fuel out of the country and to open a recently disclosed facility to international inspection.

    Mr. Netanyahu let the news of the continued U.S.-Israeli accord slip last week in a remark that attracted little notice. He was asked by Israel's Channel 2 whether he was worried that Mr. Obama's speech at the U.N. General Assembly, calling for a world without nuclear weapons, would apply to Israel.

    "It was utterly clear from the context of the speech that he was speaking about North Korea and Iran," the Israeli leader said. "But I want to remind you that in my first meeting with President Obama in Washington I received from him, and I asked to receive from him, an itemized list of the strategic understandings that have existed for many years between Israel and the United States on that issue. It was not for naught that I requested, and it was not for naught that I received [that document]."

    The chief nuclear understanding was reached at a summit between President Nixon and Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir that began on Sept. 25, 1969. Avner Cohen, author of "Israel and the Bomb" and the leading authority outside the Israeli government on the history of Israel's nuclear program, said the accord amounts to "the United States passively accepting Israel's nuclear weapons status as long as Israel does not unveil publicly its capability or test a weapon."

    There is no formal record of the agreement nor have Israeli nor American governments ever publicly acknowledged it. In 2007, however, the Nixon library declassified a July 19, 1969, memo from national security adviser Henry Kissinger that comes closest to articulating U.S. policy on the issue. That memo says, "While we might ideally like to halt actual Israeli possession, what we really want at a minimum may be just to keep Israeli possession from becoming an established international fact."

    Mr. Cohen has said the resulting policy was the equivalent of "don't ask, don't tell."

    The Netanyahu government sought to reaffirm the understanding in part out of concern that Iran would seek Israeli disclosures of its nuclear program in negotiations with the United States and other world powers. Iran has frequently accused the U.S. of having a double standard by not objecting to Israel's arsenal.

    Mr. Cohen said the reaffirmation and the fact that Mr. Netanyahu sought and received a written record of the deal suggest that "it appears not only that there was no joint understanding of what had been agreed in September 1969 but it is also apparent that even the notes of the two leaders may no longer exist. It means that Netanyahu wanted to have something in writing that implies that understanding. It also affirms the view that the United States is in fact a partner in Israel's policy of nuclear opacity."

    Jonathan Peled, a spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, declined to comment, as did the White House National Security Council.

    The secret understanding could undermine the Obama administration's goal of a world without nuclear weapons. In particular, it could impinge on U.S. efforts to bring into force the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and the Fissile Material Cutoff Treaty, two agreements that U.S. administrations have argued should apply to Israel in the past. They would ban nuclear tests and the production of material for weapons.

    A Senate staffer familiar with the May reaffirmation, who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the issue, said, "What this means is that the president gave commitments that politically he had no choice but to give regarding Israel's nuclear program. However, it calls into question virtually every part of the president's nonproliferation agenda.The president gave Israel an NPT treaty get out of jail free card."

    Daryl Kimball, executive director of the Arms Control Association, said the step was less injurious to U.S. policy.

    "I think it is par for the course that the two incoming leaders of the United States and Israel would want to clarify previous understandings between their governments on this issue," he said.

    However Mr. Kimball added, "I would respectfully disagree with Mr. Netanyahu. President Obama's speech and U.N. Security Council Resolution 1887 apply to all countries irrespective of secret understandings between the U.S. and Israel. A world without nuclear weapons is consistent with Israel's stated goal of achieving a Middle East free of weapons of mass destruction. Obama's message is that the same nonproliferation and disarmament responsibilities should apply to all states and not just a few."

    Israeli nuclear doctrine is known as "the long corridor." Under it, Israel would begin to consider nuclear disarmament only after all countries officially at war with it signed peace treaties and all neighboring countries relinquished not only nuclear programs but also chemical and biological arsenals. Israel sees nuclear weapons as an existential guarantee in a hostile environment.

    David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security, said he hoped the Obama administration did not concede too much to Israel.

    "One hopes that the price for such concessions is Israeli agreement to the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and the Fissile Material Cutoff Treaty and an acceptance of the long-term goal of a Middle East weapons-of-mass-destruction-free zone," he said. "Otherwise, the Obama administration paid too much, given its focus on a world free of nuclear weapons."

    © Copyright 2009 The Washington Times, LLC.
     
    #19     Oct 3, 2009
  10. ...and Israel is a rogue nation because of it, and the US supports this rogue nation unequivocally...

     
    #20     Oct 3, 2009