Promises 12 million jobs in first term, hahahahaha

Discussion in 'Economics' started by S2007S, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. S2007S


    I could care less about politics, but after reading this headline this morning I had to laugh and think what are the chances of 12 million new jobs being created in one term when there were over 8 million jobs lost during the financial crisis that are never coming back again. This should be interesting, funny how everyone always promises lower tax rates when in reality every single year taxes go up and costs of goods continue to rise. Just more lies!

    Romney promises 12 million jobs in first term
    CNNMoney.comBy Charles Riley | – 15 hours ago

    Mitt Romney's economic advisers issued a rosy set of projections Thursday that predict 12 million new jobs and a sharp economic expansion if the Republican candidate were to capture the White House.

    The paper, authored by four conservative economists, projects that the Romney plan would add between 0.5% and 1% per year in gross domestic product growth over the next decade.

    The estimates, the economists write, are "conservative." Growth could be even stronger if hard-to-model gains from more effective regulation and decreased policy uncertainty could be captured.

    Yet 12 million new jobs over just four years would be one of the strongest periods of employment growth in recent history, and require the economy to consistently add 250,000 jobs every 30 days for 48 straight months.

    According to the position paper, the quick turnaround would be spurred by the lower tax rates and drastic spending cuts that are the hallmark of Romney's plan.

    The implementation of Romney's plan will of course require the cooperation of Congress, and it should be noted that presidential campaigns often make promises that fail to materialize.

    The paper's authors -- Glenn Hubbard of Columbia, Greg Mankiw of Harvard, John Taylor of Stanford and Kevin Hassett of the American Enterprise Institute -- also include a boilerplate critique of the Obama administration's policies.

    "America took a wrong turn in economic policy in the past three years," the authors write. "The United States underperformed the historical norm shown in the administration's own forecasts, and its policies are to blame."

    Much of the critique is focused on what the authors characterize as a pursuit of short-term patches -- such as the stimulus -- that failed to address deep-seated structural problems like an overly complicated tax code.

    The paper criticizes Obama's housing policies, for example, saying the administration "ignored" the weak market. But Romney has not offered a detailed alternative -- and the paper does not shed any light on the candidate's plan for the housing market.

    And while the projections are spelled out in detail, the paper does not address any of the bubbling criticisms of Romney's economic plan.

    Related: Mitt Romney's other tax secret

    According to a study released Wednesday by the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, Romney's plan would provide large tax cuts to the very wealthy, while increasing the tax burden on the lower and middle classes.

    Romney's tax cuts would produce a $360 billion revenue loss in 2015, and offsetting that would require a reduction of 65% of all available tax expenditures, according to the study.

    The end result is that individuals who make less than $200,000 would actually have to pay $500 more, on average, in taxes -- a 1.2% decrease in after-tax income. Meanwhile, the after-tax income of individuals who make more than $1 million would increase by 4.1%.

    The campaign disputed the Tax Policy Center's conclusions, arguing that increased growth resulting from corporate tax reductions was not included.

    The Tax Policy Center, meanwhile, said it could not score the plan directly, as "certain components of [Romney's] plan are not specified in sufficient detail."

    The notable lack of detail is a critique that has dogged the campaign for months.

    On the spending side of the government ledger, for example, Romney has promised to reduce federal spending from 24% of gross domestic product to 20%. But has not offered a comprehensive list of programs he would cut.
  2. TGregg


    Gotta take the Obama Spin™ with "saved or created". Since I personally stopped the planet from spinning into the sun on seven occasions, I have "saved or created" every job on the planet seven times over.

    I am most awesome. ;)
  3. Tgregg what specifically do you disagree with in the article?
  4. According to the Tax Foundation, any household making less than about $80K is already getting more in government benefits (on an allocated basis) than they are paying in taxes, so those households SHOULD have their taxes increased.

    The only way to get people to vote against the expansion of government is if they pay the actual cost and aren't subsidized by others who have higher incomes.

    Free ride time is OVER. You want "big government"? Well f-cking pay for it.
  5. Isn't that, "have somebody else pay for your big government"?
  6. Politicians will say ANYTHING(no matter how far fetched it sounds or unrealistic) to win votes. Its been going on since the beginning of time...
  7. Not sure how you got that from what I wrote, but the point is that people at the lower end of the income spectrum get more in government benefits than they pay in taxes, so, all things being equal, it is fine with me that those people start paying more in taxes and upper-income earners pay less. If you put in .50 for every $1 in government benefits you get, obviously you are going to vote for more government benefits until they eventually tax you $1 for every $1 in benefits you get. Until that point, it's "free", or at least "half-off".

    Until people are made to bear the full cost of government, there is little hope of limiting it. Once they bear the full cost, they can then assess if the value is there for the cost.
  8. RedDuke


    Wow, and these guys spend a lot of time getting their PHDs.

    Drastic spending cuts will help to create jobs how???????
  9. If the spending cuts come from cutting the number of regulators, the cost of hiring in the industries with reduced regulation will go down due to lower compliance costs, thus making more of it possible.

    That would, of course, be offset by some companies being able to reduce the number of compliance staff.
    #10     Aug 3, 2012