Prominent climate change denier now admits he was wrong

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So you post an absurd chart consisting of fabricated data, and you expect commentary on it. I think not. First explain which fraud detection algorithm has been run over the data set used to create the chart. Any of the major fraud detection software modules used by major banks would be acceptable. I will note that all the data sets 'proving' global warming fail to pass basic fraud detection.
     
    #31     Jan 29, 2013
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #32     Jan 29, 2013
  3. I see the problem here. You simply don't believe scientific data. It is NOT fabricated. The CO2 really does goes up along with temps and emissions. Fraud detection algorithms? Gimme a break. What do you deny? That temps have gone up? That CO2 has gone up? How many other charts of those do you want me to present? Oh but in your deluded mind they are all fabrications unless they're from a right-wing denier website.

    Again. This idea that all the world's climate scientists, ice scientists, thermometer readers, CO2 gauges and scientific organizations are in cahoots on some grand scheme to defraud the public on something as common sense as this requires a breathtaking level of paranoia, delusion and just plain stupidity.
     
    #33     Jan 29, 2013
  4. Historically temps lead CO2.

    But CO2 is a greenhouse gas so it accentuates the rise. Without it the temps would not have the swings that they do

    There was never before in the history of the earth the release of 8 billion tons of CO2 per year from the burning of fossil fuels like there is now.

    That chart is of too long a time frame to show the effects of this CO2 on present temps. The one I posted above does.

    Understand?
     
    #34     Jan 29, 2013
  5. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Not when it's fabricated, intentionally misleading, suspect, politically biased or posted by a raving fanatic.
     
    #35     Jan 29, 2013
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    Looks like we've got nothing to concern ourselves with so long as atmospheric CO2 stays below 300 ppm.
     
    #36     Jan 29, 2013
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's take a look at the reality of CO2. Anthropogenic (man-made) CO2 contributions are responsible for only about 0.117 percent (see accompanying graph in article) of Earth's greenhouse effect.

    Let's take a look a the facts about CO2 (quoted)


    Fact 1: At 385 parts per million (ppm), CO2 is a minor constituent of earth's atmosphere – less than 4/100 of 1 percent of all gases present. Compared to earlier geologic times, earth's current atmosphere is CO2-impoverished.

    Fact 2: CO2 is odorless, colorless, and tasteless. Plants absorb CO2 and emit oxygen as a waste product. Humans and animals breathe oxygen and emit CO2 as a waste product.

    Fact 3: Carbon dioxide is a nutrient, not a pollutant, and all life – plants and animals alike – benefit from more of it. All life on earth is carbon-based and CO2 is an essential ingredient. When plant-growers want to stimulate plant growth, they introduce more carbon dioxide.

    Fact 4: CO2 emissions do not stay in the atmosphere. They are continually recycled by terrestrial plant life and earth's oceans – the watery repository for most terrestrial carbon dioxide.

    Fact 5: Water vapor is by far the most abundant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95 percent of Earth's greenhouse effect, and man’s contribution to it is insignificant. Anthropogenic (man-made) CO2 contributions are responsible for only about 0.117 percent (see accompanying graph) of Earth's greenhouse effect. Using a real-world comparison, 0.117 percent of a football field would equal just over 4 inches.

    Fact 6: When other anthropogenic greenhouse gases – methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and trace elements such as CFCs – are added to the above CO2 figure (.117 percent), the total human contribution to greenhouse gases is .28 percent.


    http://www.examiner.com/article/man...-climate-change-claim-global-warming-skeptics
     
    #37     Jan 29, 2013
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    That's the entire problem. The temps have NOT gone up. There is no 'hockey stick'. In fact all the 'global warming' crowd had to change their language to 'climate change' because the temps have been going down over the past decade on a global basis despite have one warmer recent year. Go read the articles, study the temperature data, and figure out the reality.
     
    #38     Jan 29, 2013
  9. I'm just wondering what set of temperature data you would find believable.

    You are simply a total idiot to argue that temps have not gone up rapidly over the last 100 years. Virtually no-one with more than an iota of rational thought process argues that anymore. The fact that you are still stuck with that degree of ignorance is incredible.

    from NOAA

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    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/
     
    #39     Jan 29, 2013
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Met Office reveals Global warming stopped 16 years ago
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-report-quietly-released--chart-prove-it.html
     
    #40     Jan 29, 2013