Project 2025

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bugenhagen, Sep 19, 2023.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    People who listen to Pakman are easily bright enough to understand spoiler candidates and greater evils. Ana has addressed this many times I have heard myself.

    If you say you have to just coz, too starkly then you talk down to people and lose them. I know this as I lose people all the time.
     
    #121     Sep 22, 2023
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  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    the world would be best served if pipe dreaming utopians adopted utilitarianism instead. Unless they're just disingenuous anarchists, in which case, appeals to reason is just arguing in bad faith.
     
    #122     Sep 22, 2023
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Dems recently had all 3 branches and many times before that. Roe /AA overturned, no universal healthcare,The SC is 6-9 GOP,no police reform,no free state college, taxes on the rich are lower than ever,immigration policy a disaster etc.Many disagree that voting Dem is adapting utilitarianism.
     
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    #123     Sep 22, 2023
  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I guess, achieving the greater good is the core of any realistic society though social justice has to be in there as it is good for the greater to care about this.

    As a largely Epicurean I believe we need a good bit of fucking misery to appreciate the goodness.

    More good for all and their fair or unfair share of FTW days too :)
     
    #124     Sep 22, 2023
  5. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen



    :)
     
    #125     Sep 22, 2023
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  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::D:D:D:D
     
    #126     Sep 22, 2023
  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I have seen a problem with humans generally. When there is a problem and there is an obvious root clause that needs a simple fix, talkers talk and the foundational issue gets forgotten.

    Things like campaign finance reform and such.. But I have an idea that never gets any traction. The party whip is too powerful, the speakers are too powerful. People elected representatives looking at them with an eye to their ability to get things done and represent their voters but then a handful tell the reps how to vote.

    End the whip. In a representative democracy the representatives must operate under direct democracy.
     
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    #127     Sep 22, 2023
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  8. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    The easiest way to control party members is by making them desperate for money which you as the leader have a very big thumb on. So political finance reform is not desirable to party leaders.

    One can blame Gingrich, Rove and others for unified national platform, Pelosi and others but what would actually be involved with taking the whip, now a galley slave lash from them?

    Could it be a simple thing?
     
    #128     Sep 22, 2023
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    In Germany, the Bundestag (the German federal parliament) has a rule that allows any MP to demand a secret ballot, even on a vote that the party leadership has instructed MPs to vote on openly. This rule is intended to protect MPs from feeling pressured to vote in line with the party line, even if they disagree with it.
     
    #129     Sep 22, 2023
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    I haven't completely ruled out voting for Kanye,something tells me this guy might be a good president.



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    #130     Sep 22, 2023
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