Progressive Stupidty

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Jan 4, 2021.

  1. How would you like to bring this "babe" home and introduce her to the parents?

    They say it's all good but that is not true is it?

    A Canadian maple leaf on her chest. I sure hope that's not Freddy Foreskin.


     
    #631     Dec 4, 2024
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  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    I have no doubt there was some influence, no doubt there was some similarly vague number influenced with a desire to preserve the right to sex-change medical treatment.
     
    #632     Dec 4, 2024
  3. Absolutely. Most families are not sitting around the kitchen table discussing whether a four year old girl should have the right to have her tits cut off. The reason it was not a top ten issue is because it was not even on the table for discussion.
     
    #633     Dec 4, 2024
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  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    That's right. The actual incidence of this is a fraction of the fraction of children who even have gender dysmorphia. Many more voters would have a reason to believe and discuss whether such a decision should be between the child, their parents and their doctor.
     
    #634     Dec 4, 2024
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So this is the Gallup data as of October 2024, and you can see "Trans Rights" as the least important in a vast range of topics. But because it's considered "least important" you shouldn't interpret this as "people don't care". You should, instead, interpret it as "we don't believe there are problems in this area" and the more people try to push things like gender surgery on minors, trans men in sports, bathrooms, etc, the more people get pissed off because they go "things are fine the way they are, stop trying to push this".

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    #635     Dec 4, 2024
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  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    Sure, but someone said or implied the election was lost over the issue, and future elections would be, too.
     
    #636     Dec 4, 2024
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Here you can see (from Pew) that, as time goes on, more and more people side with the "Sex is determined at birth" philosophy, which goes against the whole gender transition stuff. This would imply more and more people don't want this as a discussion point at all.

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    And in aggregate, total "Gone too far" is a good 16 points higher than "hasn't gone far enough" with trans rights. If you skew this for people who vote, its far more substantial to the "gone too far" camp, as the one bit "not gone far enough" is ages 18-29 which under indexes in actually voting compared to other age groups.

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    #637     Dec 4, 2024
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  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    If you mean me, that isn't at all what I said. What I said was that it was "one of the issues". And it was.
     
    #638     Dec 4, 2024
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I just posted clear polling data on it. There's plenty out there if you'd like to take a stroll through it. I'm not sure why you're defending this so strenouosly, unless its another example of "gotta defend my team at all costs".

    It's a clear loser from a policy perspective. Embrace it all you like, it will just bring more tears down the road.
     
    #639     Dec 4, 2024
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  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    Democrats have lost the image they stand for the working class. It’s ironic of course that the democrat policies in facts benefit the working class but if you have the wrong messaging then it’s all for nought.

    As illustrated in the chart below.

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    #640     Dec 4, 2024