for es example 1. use a 1 point stop and reverse but do not trail. 2. When market finally moves away from your stop, then trail a very very wide stop. 3. When wide stop is triggered go back to step 1. *Inventors notes: This is an original system I just stole. Optimiztion and curve fitting for the wide trailing stop shouldn't adversely affect the integrity of the system as long as you stick to the basic line in the sand principal.