profitable daytrading is possible, but probably not worth the effort

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by dozu888, Jan 8, 2008.

  1. #31     Jan 10, 2008
  2. lol you have no clue what you are talking about. did you just make that up and decide to run with it? it's not g8... the trading platform we have is gr8trade. it's just like any other trading platform.

    let's see here are my "auto-scalp" big free money winnarzzz today.

    long 5000 etn 85.25 on the open ...made 3/4s
    long 10000 nly from bernanke midday made 28 cents
    long 2400 itg around 42 made about a point...i chumped it bad
    short 3400 21 avg ths on the block trade at 20.50...made almost 40 cents
    flipped 6000 spy on the bernanke for 16 cents
    long 1000 axp (missed my fill on the other 2000 at the bottom where the big bid was at cause i am slow) made 80 cents
    long 900 cnh made 60 cents
    flipped 2000 iyr off bernanke for a dime...got back long 2000 at 60 and i am still long
    long 2000 gnk sold 1000 for 85 cents still long 1000 from 41.10
    i am also still long 2000 dia from 127.70


    my biggest loser today was tcn that i tried to hold since it was the only brazil telecom that didn't run at the close like the others. so i tried to hold it...lost 20 cents on 1000
    lost a nickel on 2000 hun
    flatted 2000 mw
    flatted 2000 ttm

    bernanke speech time
     
    #32     Jan 10, 2008
  3. Tums

    Tums

    there are med/law students who have gone to all the classes, but don't graduate. Same thing.

    "Learning without thought is labor lost; thought without learning is perilous."
     
    #33     Jan 10, 2008
  4. Tums

    Tums

    you have a comprehension problem.

    I am referring to daytrading as a job, no different from doctors or lawyers.

    You are referring to the learning process to become a daytrader. Apples and oranges.
     
    #34     Jan 10, 2008
  5. dozu888

    dozu888

    http://www.newsobserver.com/104/story/517014.html

    http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/moneymag_archive/1993/10/01/88323/index.htm

    or just look it up.... 10 cents on the dollar is not that far from any of the stats you may find.

    $1/day, $365/year, 100% goes to the needy, that is equivalent of donating $3650/year to some rip-off charity.

    it's not cheap, it's effective.
     
    #35     Jan 10, 2008
  6. Most of these stocks are very thinly traded. Although you claim last quarter you have 53% win rate. But the win is only 25c and the loss is -12c on avg per contract. a stop order can easily cost 5ticks spread or even more on these stocks. I think you have to try very hard to exit on limit order for the losing trades. Maybe stop orders are never used.

    If your machine is not "auto-scalping" over there, I think you still need it to generate good picks (easy to scalp) during the day.

     
    #36     Jan 10, 2008
  7. zdreg

    zdreg

    .0015 seems to be a typo even for a black box trader
     
    #37     Jan 10, 2008
  8. zdreg

    zdreg

     
    #38     Jan 10, 2008
  9. What I find interesting is that your wednesdays lag significantly behind the other days of the week. What's the reason for this? Do you get hammered every tuesday night :) ?
     
    #39     Jan 10, 2008
  10. pneuma

    pneuma

    I don't understand.

    Sure day trading is a job, that i get. But, you can make as much or more using much longer time frames and much less work.

    Why do you want to work so much, when you don't have to?

    For example, I look at my computer for trading purposes for 30-40 min per day; in fact my entire trading day could be completed in 60 min. I use one monitor to place orders on my brokers platform and software to help make decisions. I spend the next 23:20 doing whatever the fk i want. QED

    Last year I tripled my account, and thats comparable with previous years (same capital at the start of every year).

    All power to those who want to live infront of 4 LCD's and track every tick, but i have more important things to do.
     
    #40     Jan 10, 2008