Profit in demo & loss in real

Discussion in 'Forex' started by Peter brandley, Dec 4, 2012.

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    FXCM King of the Micro contest ,performed with downloading version of FXCM platform, (Web version possible ,but need initial capital more 2000 $) ,most of top performer's with start capital to start of the month in region 500-700% ,top performer with 1296 .08$ have made 166226.28 $ in one month + 25000 $
    price money

    Corrected list of top performers with results from march 2009 (41 contest months ,each month 5000 contestants ,for 41 month -more as 200 000 attempt's ,70% of all contestants performed loss
    to end of the month )

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=247149&perpage=6&pagenumber=3

    first place

    1.october 2011 -12725 % canada A.e 1296.08$-166226.28$
    2.may 2010 - 3109 % poland A.e. 532.32 $ -17087.65$
    3.dec 2009 -2931.95% china A.e. 725.24 $-21989$
    4. sen.2010 -2860.58% canada A.e. 546.74$ -16186.95$
    5. dec 2011 -2464.12% china A.e. 507.97$-13024$
    6. maj 2011 -2116 % china A.e. 523.38$-11600.14 $
    7. march 2009 -1951 % hk A.e. 961.10$-19714.24$
    8..februar 2012-1918.36% china A.e. 13928$-281128$
    9. jun 2012 -1809 % china A.e. 505.50$-9638.01$
    10.march 2011 -1711 % macao A.e. 2122.45$-38456.03$
    11.april 2009 -1703 % china A.e. 500.78$-9033.73$
    12 .sent 2011 -1627 % china A.e. 502.49$-8678.72$

    second place
    march 2009 -1918.67% usa 2-place
     
    #21     Sep 22, 2013
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    1.Top performer for 41 month

    october 2011 -12725 % canada 128.25 time's

    http://media.dailyfx.com/sales/micro/kom_docs/OCT2011/octtradereport1st.pdf
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    2.Ended with most account equities
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    Februar 2012 China 1 place 1918.36 %
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    Ended with A.E.=281128.03 $ + 25000 $ price money
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    http://media.dailyfx.com/sales/micro/kom_docs/FEB2012/febtradereport1st.pdf

    started contest month with a.e. =13928 $ ,balanse =4342 $
    (open position in start )

    if was not another position from 16 januar (opened position gbp/jpy ,which closed in februar and reflected in februar report) until 31 januar
    than perfomance from 16 januar until 29 februar

    (281128.03 /4342) = 64.7462 time's or 6374,62%

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    most lower risk by start possbile by

    dec 2011 -2464.12% china A.e. 507.97$-13024$


    http://media.dailyfx.com/sales/micro/kom_docs/DEC2011/dectradereport1st.pdf

    after won 23 $ on 507.97$ =530.97$ (account equity)

    14.38- sold 30 gbpusd 1.57094
    14.48 closed 1.57165

    loss 7.1 pips =-21.30 $

    Risk 4.01 %

    But ... stop loss 7.1 pips on gbpusd ?

    as example first from top perfomer's list ,canadian with 12725% used more realistic stop loss

    21 pips on audusd
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    and catched two loss , each 12.5-13% from start
     
    #22     Sep 22, 2013
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    #23     Sep 22, 2013
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    ... September 7, 2013 1:21 PM



    It was a record-smashing field for the three-day €10,000+€300 High Roller, with 180 total entries, a full 40 entries clear of the previous high at EPT9 Berlin and a huge jump from the 101 who played the High Roller in Barcelona a year ago.

    Thomas Muhlocker claimed the title and €390,700 first prize.

    http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/ept/2013/ept10-barcelona-muhlocker-high-roller-ch-141368.html

    It is 3693.20388 % on initial capital 10300 euro in 3 day's


    Top(from time to time 1-3 place in all time history,more as 18 mln $ ) payed poker gambler of all time Negreanu was placed second with 263800 euro ,but have made 1 reentry
    10300 euro +10000 euro =20300 euro initial capital

    It is 1199.5073 % profit on 20300 euro in 3 day's
     
    #24     Sep 22, 2013
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    http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/ept/2013/ept10-barcelona-xxxx-wins-the-141030.html

    EPT10 Super High Roller
    Date: August 30-September 1
    Buy-in: €50,000
    Game: NLHE
    Players: 40 players (and 11 re-entries)
    Prize pool: €2,448,765

    1. Vitaly Lunkin, Russia, €771,300
    2. Erik Seidel, USA, €557,100
    3. Steve O'Dwyer, Ireland, €355,100
    4. Mike McDonald, Canada, €269,400
    5. David Benefield, USA, €208,150
    6. Ole Schemion, Germany, €159,200
    7. Fabian Quoss, Germany, €128,515
     
    #26     Sep 22, 2013
  7. The SEC and CFTC have nothing to do with making profits on MT4 platform. The trader has the control over the ability to make profits on MT4. The MT4 platform is not an obstacle to making profits in forex, as seen by many who trade live profitable MT4 accounts listed on trade tracking sites. No more proof needed on this subject.

    The big financial winners in forex trade in funds not in trading competitions through brokers. If you are really good or have great system open a fund for the big dollars.
     
    #27     Sep 22, 2013
  8. This is a good way for someone building a system track record to make it to the big leagues one day. Like pitching in the farm leagues to show your talent.
     
    #28     Sep 22, 2013
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    Registered: Jul 2013
    Posts: 6


    New Post 09-21-13 09:55 PM

    I don't care what platform used, you will take losses to learn discretionary trading. Platform used is low on priority list when learning how to trade. Good trader can make money with almost any platform.


    I can make money on FXCM platform or MT4 or others,
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    that is no obstacle to profits.


    wihout opionion of CFTC ,SEC, CFA ,BAFIN about your trading
    result's

    your statement's without any matter
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    #29     Sep 23, 2013
  10. Its not easy to control the emotions in trading although in demo account trader is not mentally attached but when it comes to real trading there is complete different scenario so proper trading skills are necessary.
     
    #30     Oct 3, 2013