I'm curious what sorts of profit factors people look to get on the initial idea for a strategy they think has potential. My gut tells me that it's rare to find a strategy which, prior to optimization, has a profit factor above 2, but my gut could be completely off on this. In my case, although I only use one strategy across multiple markets, I have found that the "base case" for the strategy results in a profit factor of between 1 and 1.4. In one market, it's slightly below 1, but not by much. Anyone ever get an idea, test it and find that even before you do anything to optimize, you've got a profit factor of higher than 2? On the other side, what would be the lowest initial profit factor you would think could be worked into something useful with optimizations? 0.9? 0.75? Nothing below 1, ever?