probability

Discussion in 'Options' started by Andy_Trade, Nov 23, 2007.

  1. Lets do the math with help from OpenOffice 2.0 Calc.
    • $1,000.00
    • $1,500.00
    • $2,250.00
    • $3,375.00
    • $5,062.50
    • $7,593.75
    • $11,390.63
    • $17,085.94
    • $25,628.91
    • $38,443.36
    • $57,665.04
    • $86,497.56
    • $129,746.34
    $1000.00 to $129,746.34 in 12 months, I don't think that sort of return is "normal and reasonable".
     
    #31     Nov 23, 2007
  2. Your math is flawed.

    You don't double the number of contracts with each win. You increase them when you reach the appropriate risk levels.

    JJ
     
    #32     Nov 23, 2007
  3. neke

    neke

    Even then 50% per month simple average is not normal . What sample size(months) are we looking at? It is easy to take a month or two and get an average. Before giving an average you should get enough data points (like 48 months!): you do not find an average of the good months and ignore the bad months in the calculation. And by the way, if there is something good in a method, there is no reason not to scale up proportionately.
     
    #33     Nov 23, 2007
  4. Using the example of trading leveraged securties, 50% per month is very doable. Example for trading 1 ES contract:

    a) 1 contract has a performance bond of $2,000 daytrading performance bond.
    b) 1 contract can easily produce an average of $100 gain (that's 2pts) per day on a weekly basis.
    c) so, with that $2,000, you can produce $500 per week, or $2,000 per month.
    d) scalability is determined by managing the risk respresented by each contract, not by increasing the number of contracts according to the performance bond.

    Trading each class of security has very specific criteria for how success is achieved trading it.

    It's self-evident from the posts made that trading emini futures is not something which is understood very well by most traders on this board.

    Good trading,

    Jimmy Jam
     
    #34     Nov 24, 2007
  5. ROTFLMAO
     
    #35     Nov 24, 2007
  6. Yeah, me too assclown.
    Thanks for your extremely intelligent insight.

    Please let us know how the paper trading works out.

    JJ

    P.S. ... and make up your mind on your reply, fucktard.
     
    #36     Nov 24, 2007
  7. ROFLMAOAPMP
     
    #37     Nov 24, 2007
  8. artes

    artes


    The CBOE exchange publishes the percentange numbers of options who expires worthless

    #"70% of options expire worthless to the buyer! That means 70% expire profitable to the seller."
    http://www.futures-trading-systems.net/articles/the-myth-of-option-expiry.htm #
     
    #38     Nov 24, 2007
  9. Easy. All you have to do is misuse mathematics by predicting the behavior of nonexistent prices in the nonexistent future.

    Statistics describes the past. What might happen in the future is an opinion.

    ________________________________________

    Wow, out of all post by the Elite Trash, brokers, and 9 to 5ers on this site, I finally read something that makes sense.

    Thank G-d there is one voice of reason out of the billion idiots who post.

    Congrats!:cool:
     
    #39     Nov 24, 2007
  10. You should have kept reading. Later on that same page you linked:

    Besides, winning 70% of the time still doesn't guarantee you a profit. We trade for cash, not for winning percentage.
     
    #40     Nov 24, 2007