Probability for PnL >= 0 for 1DTE

Discussion in 'Options' started by Quanto, Jan 23, 2024.

What is the probability for PnL >= 0 for a 1DTE/ATM_IV300 trade with the following PnL diagram?

  1. about 66%

  2. about 32%

  3. about 88%

  4. about 53%

  5. it's much different from the above ones

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  1. Quanto

    Quanto

    I soon will present the results of my research on the problem of this topic in this thread.
    Spoiler: all 3 probability results are correct at the same time: 88%, 66%, 53% :)
    It's about the correct interpretation of what each exactly means & describes! As said the devil is in the details...
     
    #21     Jan 24, 2024
  2. ondafringe

    ondafringe

    Pit viper... lol
     
    #22     Jan 24, 2024
  3. Quanto

    Quanto

    Solution to the problem in the OP (p for CC payoff at expiration).
    There are at least 3 probabilities, each having a different meaning:
    Code:
    1) pWin_BEP              = 0.659665 (66%) -->  R3 = 1.938281
    2) pWin_BEP+Pot          = 0.539563 (54%) -->  R3 = 1.171849
    3) pWin_BEP+Pot+Weighted = 0.882536 (88%) -->  R3 = 7.513246
    
    All 3 operate right of the Break/Even Sx point (BEP).

    R3 ("Reward Risk Ratio") means reward expectancy for every $1 risked. Formula: R3 = p / (1 - p).
    R3 replaces all the many different (and wrong) Expectancy formulas out there in the wild.

    Pot is the money that was on the table (depends on the # of simulation runs, but we are interested only in the percentages).

    The case #3 is the most advanced method, but also complicated to calculate (requires a numerical integration method).
    It interprets the payoff curve as "probability-weighted": payoffs near the initial S have a higher p than those further away.
    IMO, the R3 of it is the most realistic one. :)

    Attached also pgm output, but for experts only. Uses long lines --> use "less -Sn filename.txt" when viewing in Linux terminal.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2024
    #23     Jan 24, 2024
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    #24     Jan 27, 2024
  5. Robert Morse

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    #25     Jan 27, 2024
  6. Yes it is lol.
     
    #26     Jan 28, 2024