Price Action. Please clarify something for me

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by sgsaxton, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. Just another distraction from making consistent profit from trading. The "establishment" strikes again.
     
    #101     Apr 8, 2006
  2. True. The "bar" is completely irrelevant. All that matters is the price flow. How one displays it has nothing to do with that flow.

    The candles that so many people make so much of, for example, exist only in the time interval which is chosen to display them. Thus a parabolic move in one time interval becomes a "gravestone doji" in another.
     
    #102     Apr 8, 2006
  3. Lamont C

    Wrote:

    True. The "bar" is completely irrelevant. All that matters is the price flow. How one displays it has nothing to do with that flow.
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    The idea here is to catch a up (down) move as it begins.

    When looking at a 5 minute chart for example,
    haven't we all waited for a white candle before going long.
    If that candle has gone to 60% of the upward move (I'm
    just going to assume were looking at a sideways market)
    then it's too late to safely enter. I suppose one could use
    3 minute bars for a earlier confirmation, but I was wondering
    about rolling bars here.

    Thanks,

    -Stephen
     
    #103     Apr 8, 2006
  4. I thought the e-mini S&P 500 was open on Saturdays?

    Is this true?

    -Stephen
     
    #104     Apr 8, 2006
  5. Lamont C

    Of course we don't have to talk about candles.
    Colored-coded bars are fine to display price flow.

    -Stephen
     
    #105     Apr 8, 2006
  6. 1000

    1000

    It would boil down to looking at a tick chart, or the lowest time interval, with the last 5 (or whatever roll time you wanted) being grouped/bunched together as one bar.

    This would distort the moving averages and any other indicators i.e. how to calculate the moving average for the last (most immediate) data set?

    Also won't be able to see any price distortions immediately, i.e. would have to wait for roll time to complete.
     
    #106     Apr 8, 2006
  7. 1000

    We don't understand each other. (Or I just don't understand
    what you're saying.) The idea is to see valid 5 minute (or
    whatever time period) bars updated on the minute.

    Tick charts don't come up here.
    Moving averages should not skew.

    -Stephen
     
    #107     Apr 8, 2006
  8. 1000

    1000

    If you had real time streaming data, with a 5minute interval, it would automatically update on a tick basis e.g. E-signal, or Bloomberg.
     
    #108     Apr 8, 2006
  9. Stephen wrote:

    Moving averages should not skew.
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    That is, if one is using a 4 period simple
    on 5 minute bars the moving average will
    be invalid at the beginning of the trading
    day. I guess after 20 minutes after the open
    the average should be fine. (?)

    -Stephen
     
    #109     Apr 8, 2006
  10. Yes I know. But a 5 minute bar chart is only *totally* valid
    after 5 minutes. 9:35 9:40 9:45 etc. We know this. I
    think I'm having difficulty explaning myself in this idea.

    -Stephen
     
    #110     Apr 8, 2006