Price Action Journal V1.5

Discussion in 'Journals' started by TraderKaizen, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. I've noticed it too. There's a saying that goes "The second mouse gets the cheese". Anytime I see a place where there's a little bit of consolidation near a previous S/R, I wait. Why, because I see people getting short / long and then figure the MM's are going to tap the opposite side to catch a few weak ones before resuming trend. It is happening frequently of late.

    Be the second mouse. The first one has his neck broken in the trap, but the cheese is still there.
     
    #411     Sep 29, 2008
  2. JFW,

    2 LONG – I bot based on the double bottom at approximately 8:40 & 9:50. The bar I decided to buy on was a retrace from a previous long bar (2nd back). Stop was below the DB.

    3RD LONG – I failed to recognize where I was in the larger picture. I was caught up in some s/r lines on my chart. Reversed direction shortly after.
     
    #412     Sep 29, 2008
  3. Bingo! Not controlling this has cause me problems in the past.

    Appreciate it…definitely.
     
    #413     Sep 29, 2008
  4. Exactly, that's what I am talking about. Consider we are in an uptrend, and prices start pulling back, and then you get a bullish bar that makes a HH than the previous bar, so a lot of traders start going long again. Suddenly, prices turn back down and you get another bearish bar, but no down trend starts back up. It's just a one bar move back down again in most cases. Prices pull back just enough to take out all the stops on those that just got long, but then take off making another high. You might see this several times before prices actually start a solid up trend again.

    If you see the prvious low taken out by a tick or two, but then the uptrend starts, that's definitely stop hunting, but I think the other I described is stop hunting as well. They clean out all the early longs, and then they tempt others that are less seasoned to jump back in short, only to whip saw them all. Look at some charts and see how many times this happens lately.

    As most of you know, the best trades don't usually take any heat. You see the pull back ending, you jump on board, and off it goes. That just doesn't seem to happen much lately. It seems that it takes two or three tries to get on board now.
     
    #414     Sep 29, 2008
  5. jfw215

    jfw215

    Yea, I think place you entry at the low end of the 3rd bar on 3br seems to be the safest bet, although you'll miss out on the run if it doesn't come back. But I think i'd rather be safe than sorry...
    Mccullek, how do you place your entries?

    Thanks

    JW
     
    #415     Sep 30, 2008
  6. I normally place mine at the 50% level of bar 3, but if I miss that and bar 4 looks really strong, I sometimes take the magic tick on bar 4, again placing my limit order at or just above the 50% level of the previous bar, although it is much more risky. That's why I moved to the smaller tick chart for now, to reduce the size of my stops.

    I'm like you, I would rather miss a good trade than get sucked into a bad trade. If I take the second entry I described above, I'll usually cover quickly if prices don't take off right away. I'd also rather get a few ticks profit, BE or even a small loss, and miss a good trade, than to have a losing trade and take a full stop.
     
    #416     Sep 30, 2008
  7. I was having trouble getting good fills today, ended up not placing many trades. I highlight one of them.

    2 long trades today

    1st – loser (bad trade)
    2nd – winner
     
    #417     Sep 30, 2008
  8. jmonday

    jmonday


    BYF do you sim trade full time or just a few hours a day b4/after your full time job?
     
    #418     Sep 30, 2008
  9. I try to work my real jobs schedule so that I can be available to trade most of the day, it doesn’t always work out.
     
    #419     Sep 30, 2008
  10. 7 trades

    4 winners
    2 losers (1st & 3rd)
    1 BE (7th)
     
    #420     Oct 1, 2008