You have been ripping off the US for years. Its time to pay up. Canada’s Trudeau returns home after Trump meeting without assurances that tariffs are off the table
What you seem to not understand is that the US economy control's the world's economy. If US has a recession, all countries in the world have a recession or depression. If the US economy does well, the impact the growth of every country in the world.
That's is not true. The tail wags the dog a bit but only a trailer park peasant says that the macroeconomics work like this. (no offence @TrailerParkTed)
You should tell Trump that the United States no longer needs Natural Gas, Water, Electricity, and minerals from other countries. Also, tell him to close all those pipelines that the United States invested billions of dollars into building in Canada to bring in Oil, Natural Gas, and Water from Canada... Projects that the Republicans fought like hell to get so that they can be imported to southern states. Yeah, I forgot to mention Minerals too. Thus, Trump doesn't understand what Net Import Reliance is when it's at 100%. Seriously, you may have stated another silly statement that the United States controls and produces diamonds for the rest of the world or that the world depends on the United States for its diamond production. Simply, this is about supply/demand...which country produces what resource that the United States does not produce nor control. The top diamond-producing countries play a major role in shaping the diamond industry and the nation’s economy. The top diamond-producing countries are Russia, Botswana, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Canada, South Africa, Zimbabwe, and Namibia. Read the above carefully, the United States is not listed as a top diamond producer. Here's another news alert, there are other imports that the United States is greatly dependent upon because they are cheaply made in other countries in comparison to being extremely expensive if those consumer products are built in the United States. Simply, it's LESS expensive for U.S. consumers, the U.S. government, and U.S. businesses to purchase the below consumer goods instead of producing them ourselves because of Labor and Time Investment... They are too costly to make in the United States. https://commodity.com/data/usa/ Now guess which communities in the United States are greatly dependent on for plants that build Rubber Tires like many of the major foreign tire companies that have plants in the United States like Michelin, Pirelli, Continental, Bridgestone, and Yokohama??? I will give you a big hint...communities in southern states that greatly depend on the economics of doing business with foreign countries willing to build their plants in the United States for consumer products like Rubber Tires. Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, and South Carolina. The above are states that voted for Trump and they know what tariffs that Trump proposes will do to their economy. For your information, Trump's tariff war with other countries in his first term as President...it cost America 28 billion dollars to give aid to farmers that were being bankrupted by Trump's tariffs to help prevent those farmers from passing on their costs to America's consumers at the grocery stores... Reality, it did cost America's taxpayers because we had to pay for that 28 billion dollars. We have a little history from Trump's first term about the cost of tariffs to Americans. Total American agricultural exports to China were $24 billion in 2014 and fell to $9.1 billion by the end of 2019. Losing the world’s most populous country as an export market has been a major blow to the U.S. agriculture industry. Trump counter by saying - “Well, they can’t be too upset, because I gave them $12 billion and I gave them $16 billion this year. . . . I hope you like me even better than you did in ’16.” I know many that voted for Trump because of the high cost of living that they blame on Biden...they will have an issue with this tariff bullshit if it backfires again like it did in Trump's first term. wrbtrader
You clearly don't understand business or economics. The entire world is reliant on the US economy. Period. End of story. Canada is dependent on the US. The US is not reliant on Canada. Besides the US has a multiple of Canada's gas supplies. According to the numbers below with just a quick Google search, the US has 288x the natgas proven reserves that Canada has. From Google search: As of December 31, 2022, the United States had 691 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of natural gas proved reserves. This was a 10% increase from the end of 2021, when reserves were 625.4 Tcf. In 2020, Canada had 2.4 trillion cubic meters of proven natural gas reserves, the largest amount since 1998. Gas Reserves in CanadaCanada has proven reserves equivalent to 17.5 times its annual consumption. This means it has about 18 years of gas left (at current consumption levels and excluding unproven reserves).
You're lost but I won't waste any more time after the below comments on this issue about Natural Gas, Oil, Water, and Electricity dependence nor the number of pipelines that the United States has invested billions of dollars building in Canada to import those resources from Canada to the United States... Billions of project dollars that Trump resurrected in his first term and has promised to do in his second term although it's in contrast to his promise to increase tariffs against Canada. Simply, Trump can not have it both ways...increase tariffs while expecting Canada to keep those pipelines, and electricity transmission lines open or without additional costs to the United States. Canada has laws in place to shut it down or limit these critical resources to the United States for concerns like "increasing tariffs". Energy security The United States imports a large amount of oil and natural gas from Canada, and the two countries have the world's largest bilateral energy trade relationship. Canada is the largest supplier of crude oil to the United States, and the two countries share a long history of economic ties. Geographic proximity Canada's pipelines transport oil from its western provinces to refineries in the United States.The Midwest and Rocky Mountains are particularly connected to Canada's oil markets. Efficiency Pipelines are safer, and more efficient, and create fewer emissions than other modes of transportation. ---------- Water In 2022, Canada exported $33.4 million in water, with the United States being the primary destination at $28.8 million. Ironically, the United States then turns around and exports water to other countries. The freshwater that the United States imports from Canada...it then is treated in the United States with stuff other countries have banned and/or the water is then circulated in the U.S. pipes that are toxic with lead...a bill that Trump refused to sign in his first term to replace the U.S. aging toxic water pipeline. Canada has 7% of the world's renewable supply of freshwater. Yeah, the U.S. can get fresh water from other countries but it's too costly. Electricity The United States imports electricity from Canada through a complex system of power transmission lines and interconnected power markets. Although the electricity amounts are small...it's crucial that the interconnected power grids have that electricity because it helps ensure the reliability of the electricity power system in the United States. Transmission Lines The U.S. and Canada share over 35 transmission lines that connect the power grids of the two countries. These lines span from New England to the Pacific Northwest. How important are these transmission lines from Canada??? 2003 Northeast Blackout @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003 45 million people in the United States across 8 states had no power. That's just one of many blackouts that the United States has had when one of Canada's transmission lines goes down. Today, the United States remains dependent on Canada's electricity transmission lines because the U.S. is too lazy to update its power grid (it's too costly)...much cheaper to use Canada's transmission lines. Power Markets The U.S. and Canada have several power markets that facilitate cross-border trading, including ISO New England, the Midcontinent Independent System Operator, and the New York Independent System Operator. Regulatory Entities The North American Electric Reliability Corporation (NERC) and other international regulatory bodies help ensure that the power system functions smoothly across North America. ------- I will let you remain misinformed on Oil and Natural Gas while you intentionally ignore other resources (e.g. Minerals and Consumer Goods) that the United States is dependent on from other countries like Canada and Mexico (see charts I posted in my prior message post). Electricity Importance to 45 million Americans (just one transmission line out of 35 other transmission lines that the United States is using to get electricity from Canada) That transmission line from Canada (Ontario) that connected to Ohio going down cost the United States $10 billion dollars. It resulted in George Bush recognizing the United States has a great dependency problem on Canada's transmission lines. All Presidents (including Trump) have not fixed that dependency on Canada's electricity...continuing to prefer importing electricity from Canada. Now imagine if Canada was a dick about sharing anymore of its Electricity and Water...eventhough its just a small amount of electricity with the United States because of Trump's dumbass tariffs (above video self explanatory). The issue is not the amount, it's why the United States needs it and why the small amount is so crucial to stability in the United States. On a sad note: Estimated deaths from the Blackout: Estimates of the number of deaths range from at least 11 to nearly 100. Mortality increase: A study found a 122% increase in accidental deaths and a 25% increase in non-accidental deaths. https://www.livenowfox.com/news/2003-northeast-blackout-what-happened wrbtrader
The problem with your argument is that you are inferring the Canada has all of the leverage. It does not. The US is the big dog. The US is the 800 lb gorilla. If Canada threatens the US with taking away electricity, the US should take if by force. The US is not going to be pushed around by a little piss ant country that exist because the US allows it to exist.
Not possible considering Trump has bragged multiple times he doesn't start wars, the world is at peace when he's President blah blah blah...ignoring that there were over 49 military conflicts in the world when Trump was President... In 2017: 55 armed conflicts occurred in 29 states and territories: Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Colombia, Cyprus, the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Egypt, Eritrea, Georgia, India, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Mexico, Moldova, Myanmar, Nigeria, Pakistan, Palestine, the Philippines, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria. I won't waste my time mentioning the military conflicts in the world for 2016, 2018, 2019, and 2020. Thus, Trump will never LIE and CONTRADICT his policies by trying to take Canada by force over a little issue involving Electricity...right??? By the way, many thousands of U.S. military veterans reside in Canada. In addition, there are thousands of U.S. reservists and U.S. national guards residing in Canada who drive across the border to the United States for their military commitment. It would be a tough pill for Americans to swallow in attacking their northern neighbors just to steal some of their electricity...many of the transmission lines sit on Indigenous Canadian protected land. I've been suggesting to you that we need to stop pretending we're self-sufficient and do not need our neighbor's help or the help of many other countries, especially when Americans think we can take the resources of a neighboring country. Seriously, you're suggesting starting a war with Canada over tariffs for those who think it is a cool idea to steal some of Canada's valuable resources instead of paying a premium price for it if Trump mudsling tariffs at Canada. In the meantime, Pierre Poilievre and the Conservative Party, are pledging to introduce several measures to protect Canadian jobs which will be impacted the most by Trump's tariffs. Conservatives in Canada are different from Conservatives in the United States: don't want to take away LGBTQIA+ rights they believe in climate change they support social services, like child benefit payments support some foreign aid support some gun control support socialized medicine and mental health care support refugees and immigration (but only if it benefits the economy) support Indigenous and First Nations peoples' rights support senior services (old people services) The United States and Canada have a comprehensive trading relationship that benefits both countries in many ways, including: Trade:The U.S. and Canada are each other's largest trading partners, with nearly $3.6 billion in goods and services crossing the border every day. Canada is the top export market for the U.S., accounting for 14.2% of all U.S. goods exports in 2022. Investment: The U.S. is the largest investor in Canada, and Canada is the largest source of foreign direct investment (FDI) in the U.S. Energy: Canada is the largest foreign supplier of energy to the U.S. Trade agreements: The U.S., Canada, and Mexico are parties to the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement (USMCA), which supports mutually beneficial trade.The USMCA replaced the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). Geographic proximity: Canada's geographic proximity to the U.S. makes it an easy export market. Cultural affinity: The U.S. and Canada share a cultural affinity, which makes doing business easier. Many Canadians living on the border have spouses that work in the United States and vice versa. Can't we, can't we all just get along with each other, especially with Conservatives poised to take power in Canada? wrbtrader
I realize you're not replying to me, but just to clarify myself, I do not want Americans to suffer so much as I want them to learn. That's the reasoning behind my call for Trump to deliver on his promises, in full. Dems, back off, let him do it all. Hey, if it works it works, and if it doesn't, it doesn't, either way Americans learn.